Posted on 06/18/2023 11:28:14 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
I have to admit that while there are likely many things that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and I would disagree on, I do like his willingness to challenge the democratic orthodoxy and not be quiet about it. For that “crime,” he is not liked by the powers that be. I think the Biden team is a little bit scared of him, which is one of the reasons they don’t want to have a debate with him. He’s got the Kennedy name, he’s a lightning rod, and he’s about ten times smarter than Joe, with the ability to put together a coherent sentence.
RFK Jr. recently appeared on Joe Rogan’s podcast. We covered how he thought his uncle may have been killed by the CIA. But he also spoke about vaccinations, and that ticked off vaccine scientist Peter Hotez, who didn’t like the fact that Rogan had Kennedy on to spread vaccine “misinformation,” and he tweeted a story that attacked Spotify for running the interview.
Spotify Has Stopped Even Sort of Trying to Stem Joe Rogan’s Vaccine Misinformation. It’s really true @annamerlan just awful. And from all the online attacks I’m receiving after this absurd podcast, it’s clear many actually believe this nonsense.
https://t.co/GwIFsOODC2— Prof Peter Hotez MD PhD (@PeterHotez) June 17, 2023
That’s when Joe Rogan threw down the gauntlet offering Hotez, who he’s had on his show, $100,000 to come on the podcast and debate RFK Jr., with no time limit.
Peter, if you claim what RFKjr is saying is “misinformation” I am offering you $100,000.00 to the charity of your choice if you’re willing to debate him on my show with no time limit. https://t.co/m0HxYek0GX
— Joe Rogan (@joerogan) June 17, 2023
RFK Jr. immediately agreed. He’s shown he’s willing to debate what he thinks.
Peter. Let’s finally have the respectful,congenial,informative debate that the American people deserve.
— Robert F. Kennedy Jr (@RobertKennedyJr) June 17, 2023
Elon Musk was all for the battle.
🔥🔥
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) June 17, 2023
Hotez responded that Rogan had his contact information, but he still ducked answering the challenge.
Joe, you have my cell, my email, I’m always willing to speak with you https://t.co/dJDzJMxBwi
— Prof Peter Hotez MD PhD (@PeterHotez) June 17, 2023
Rogan explained he challenged him because he quoted the Vice article,
This is a non answer. I challenged you publicly because you publicly quote tweeted and agreed with that dogshit vice article. If you’re really serious about what you stand for, you now have a massive opportunity for a debate that will reach the largest audience a discussion… https://t.co/g1FGalC0Ym
— Joe Rogan (@joerogan) June 17, 2023
Warning for language:
This is a non answer. I challenged you publicly because you publicly quote tweeted and agreed with that dogshit vice article. If you’re really serious about what you stand for, you now have a massive opportunity for a debate that will reach the largest audience a discussion like this has ever had. If you think someone else is better qualified, suggest that person.
Rogan also noted that he’d seen the original response from Hotez that demanded $50 million for the challenge and an apology from RFK Jr. because Hotez knew that would never happen, so he wouldn’t have to debate.
By the way, @PeterHotez , I saw this tweet that you deleted.
pic.twitter.com/eS7ynkGqGO— Joe Rogan (@joerogan) June 17, 2023
If Hotez believes what he’s saying is right and RFK Jr. is wrong, then why doesn’t he do it for free if he’s so concerned about what RFK Jr. is saying?
That’s when Musk laid out Hotez.
He’s afraid of a public debate, because he knows he’s wrong
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) June 17, 2023
Hotez said he was happy to come on and clear the air.
I’m happy to come on and clear the air. I respect you and your show. I don’t want an adversarial relationship, I think we can work well together
— Prof Peter Hotez MD PhD (@PeterHotez) June 18, 2023
Rogan made it clear that Hotez was just offering to come in and talk on his show, not debate. Then Rogan pointed out that even as Hotez was backpedaling and trying to play nice, he claimed in May that Rogan was part of a neo-fascist coalition involving Elon Musk, Tucker Carlson, and RFK Jr. Talk about conspiracy theories.
To those misunderstanding what he’s saying, he’s NOT agreeing to debate @RobertKennedyJr. He’s just offering to come on my show by himself.
— Joe Rogan (@joerogan) June 18, 2023
Notice the “I hope Biden is preparing” in that May tweet from Hotez. To do what? Shut down speech? Go after people who disagree with him? Unfortunately, the “neofascist coalition” here is the most dangerous conspiracy of all: that of no conspiracy, when many think the same thing without colluding because they see the evidence before their eyes. And all of them support free speech and are willing to stand by what they believe.
Game, set, and match to Rogan with that last response, nailing Hotez for saying one thing to his face while writing something else about him behind his back.
Extra fun from Rogan dealing with the expert, Tom Nichols.
That would be a great suggestion if you could assure that the industry you were representing wasn’t completely captured by heartless monsters who have a history of some of the biggest criminal fines in human history because their deception has cost hundreds of thousands of people… https://t.co/fVlPdwCWrq
— Joe Rogan (@joerogan) June 18, 2023
Then Elon Musk finished off Hotez too.
First of all, I am generally pro vaccine. I have been vaccinated against pretty much everything, as have my kids.
Second, I think there is tremendous promise in synthetic mRNA. It is like medicine going from analog to digital.
That said, the world obviously went crazy with…
pic.twitter.com/lQkqY8uvgT— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) June 18, 2023
At last report, this was the money being offered for the debate:
💰 The Peter Hotez vs. RFK Jr Charity Debate Pot Is Up To $860,000!!
Please add any other contributions I missed to the comments
a) $100k – @joerogan
b) $150k – @BillAckman
c) $100k – @RubinReport
d) $100k – @patrickbetdavid
e) $100k – @stkirsch
f) $50k – @jason_howerton…— Chief Nerd (@TheChiefNerd) June 18, 2023
RFK Jr. is a legitimate contender.
Do not be surprised if he wins the Dim nomination.
He would also present a formidable challenge for Trump in the general.
Maybe Rogan should take a page out of George Putnams idea on debating people, like he did with the candidate for DA back in the 60’s.
PUT UP AN EMPTY CHAIR and Have the Debate anyway
“I think the Biden team is a little bit scared of him”
Understatement of the year. They’re scared Shiiteless of him.
...and now it looks like Plan A has failed, with Plan A being to ignore him and let him operate on the fringes. Musk just neutralized that plan, by putting him on Twitter.
And so what will be Plan B? Options include the following:
1. Epstein treatment.
2. Downloading kiddie porn on his computer/phone.
3. Engaging him in debate.
Obviously Option 3 is out as long as Biden remains the candidate...so which of the remaining options, and any others out there, fellow FReepers?
The Demonrats will fix their own elections to deny non-puppets their nomination. Unless RFK Jr. plans on supporting the whole of the party’s subversive degenerate agenda (and become a puppet of Big Pharma, too), they will never let him near the nomination, no matter if he gets a landslide majority in every state.
RFK Jr. knows that in running, he is risking getting the same treatment as dad and uncle. Big Pharma alone will want to see that an “accident” befalls him.
“RFK Jr. knows that in running, he is risking getting the same treatment as dad and uncle. Big Pharma alone will want to see that an “accident” befalls him.”
I think he’s 70, so he’s likely on pills of some kind. Sure be a shame if Big Pharma mixes up his prescription. I’d add this to my list, but this is a subset of the Epstein Treatment.
In thinking about it, they need to move out SOON, for if he ‘gets legs’ as us political junkies call it, and then is ‘neutralized’ in some way as a candidate, TONS of Democrats will want to send a message, be it voting for Trump, or not voting. For them, killing us Fascists is ok, but killing their own is not.
Please realize Musk is just a Rothschild drone.
…as is Rogan, btw.
The new Kennedy will be dealt with with at least the amount of vigor they dealt to lieberman.
And he only supported Isreal.
Of course he is a legitimate contender.
But he is no friend of this country, even if he is the stopped clock that is right twice a day with his stance on COVID and foreign entanglements.
I see people on this very website that say they would vote for him. He isn’t a friend of this country, and he is absolutely not friend of conservatives or conservatism.
RFKjr is at least a tolerable Democrat…when you see him getting trashed it says the progressives are worried!
What really fascinates me these days is the fact that Big Pharma and Big Cabal are themselves facing the same outcome as JFK and his AG brother..
You have spoken in truth.
How is he tolerable?
Hugo Chavez fan boy!
Extreme environmental activist lawyer!
Has been quoted several times to wanting to be able to put energy company executives and people who disagree with him on global warming in jail!
How is any of that tolerable?
Yes, he is! I never, ever in my life would think I would say that or vote for a Kennedy.
It's early and many more miles to go, but so far, he's my number two!
There is no way the DNC or Biden operatives would allow that slimy prick Peter Hotez to debate RFK jr., Hotez would get sliced and diced and sent home to never show his face again, meanwhile millions of people would watch the debate and come to realize RFK jr. is not the insane conspiracy theorist the media have made him out to be and compared to Biden he he would look like a Mensa candidate.
The audience would not be just from the USA, the Kennedy name is well known around the world and any country that was subject to the tyrannical policies of Covid would tune in and then start asking questions of their own governments.
The only thing better than Hotez debating RFK Jr. would be for Fauci to step and debate him.
“Please realize Musk is ...”
Anti-woke
Anti-union
Pro free speech
and pro DeSantis
“RFKjr is at least a tolerable Democrat…”
He is left of the leftists on implementing economic and environmental policies that would destroy this country.
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