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Ukraine’s Faltering Offensive is Completely Lost on General Milley and Secretary of Defense Austin
Gateway Pundit ^ | Jun. 16, 2023 | By Larry Johnson

Posted on 06/16/2023 4:17:30 PM PDT by Kazan

Ukraine’s faltering offensive is completely lost on General Milley and Secretary of Defense Austin. Milley and Austin, put that face on full display Thursday as they briefed reporters on the results of the Ukraine Defense Contact Group in Brussels.

The problem with the NATO plan for Ukraine’s faltering offensive is encapsulated in the following quote (it starts at the 8:51 mark in the video at link):

More than six thousand Ukrainians are being trained right now at 40 different locations (sic) training locations in 65 courses in 33 Nations on three continents. That is all happening right now today

Let me give you some facts. If you join the U.S. Army and want to learn to crew a M1 Abram tank, you are looking at a minimum of 6 months training. And that is just learning how drive the tank and fire shells. But that is only the beginning. Soldiers are not given their own personal tank to tool around the base. Once a soldier and his crew learn how to start, steer, shoot and stop, the team must then learn how to operate in a coordinated fashion with a company (150 soldiers ), a battalion (800 to 1000 soldiers), a brigade (5000 soldiers) and a Division (10,000 to 15,000 soldiers).

Instruction starts with the simple and proceeds to the complex. Effectively operating a tank as part of a Division is the most complicated task and mission. Guess what? To learn to do this requires at least two years of training. There are no shortcuts. I spoke the other day with a young Army Captain who remarked how difficult it was to train U.S. troops to carry out brigade level tank maneuvers even after two years of training.

With that as background do you now appreciate the stupidity of Milley’s comment? The Ukrainians are not being taken to one location in one country and asked to master two or three courses of instruction. Nope. They are in 40 different locations in 33 different countries and 6000 Ukrainian troops are being fed a firehose of 65 courses. Do the math. That works out to about 93 soldiers per course. And the instructors most likely do not speak Ukrainian, so the soldiers are getting translated lessons in English, French, German, Polish and Italian. This is a veritable tower of Babel.

So let’s entertain the assumption that these 6000 souls are really fast learners and magically complete the training. How do you integrate 6000 soldiers that have been in 33 countries and being trained to different standards? Short answer — you don’t. It is impossible.

But then consider this. During just one week of combat against Russian forces, the Ukrainians lost 7500 men (killed and wounded). All of those trained soldiers erased in the flash of an artillery shell, a mortar or a glide bomb. Again, do the math. If Ukraine is losing 6000 men a week, then the training pipeline better have at least 80,000 Ukrainians attending these courses. Otherwise, NATO training cannot keep pace with Ukrainian casualties.

What we are witnessing is military malpractice on a colossal scale. I find it hard to believe that Milley, Austin and their NATO compatriots are really this stupid in touting this training regimen as something responsible and wise. It is madness. The cynical part of me believes that Ukraine is just being used as a pretext to juice the Western defense industries. After years of neglect and outsourcing, the U.S. and its NATO partners have discovered that they no longer have the factories and materials necessary to supply an industrial scale war.

The hard truth it this — Ukraine does not have the manpower and NATO does not have the luxury of time required to ensure the Ukrainian soldiers have minimal levels of competence in the military arts they are trying to learn in a veritable crash course. Keep this in mind as Russian grinds the Ukrainian Army into dust. All of that money for training men whose life expectancy is counted in weeks, if not days. Who will be held accountable?


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KEYWORDS: alwayswrong; failedproxywar; invasion; larrycjohnson; larryjohnson; liberalworldorder; putinbot; russia; ukraine
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To: Right_Wing_Madman
"It's over before it started. Ukraine's mech brigades began movement against the Russian line in Zaparozha (the "grey zone") starting on June 4th. That's when the carnage began. Over 6,000 Ukrainian deaths later, I have not tracked any Ukraine brigade-level forward movement since June 13th. It looks like the 10-day offensive is over."

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Exactly. The copium is very strong in these Zeepers.

21 posted on 06/16/2023 4:51:00 PM PDT by Neanderthal (Let's go, Brandon!)
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

Thanks for the report genius. Which you made up.

unfortunately for the Russians they’ve seen plenty of Ukrainian forward progress.


22 posted on 06/16/2023 4:52:32 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: rdcbn1

Vladimir Putin is the one who brought havoc and destruction into Ukraine.

I think a lot of you believe that if you make stuff up it becomes true.


23 posted on 06/16/2023 4:54:49 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Williams
Thanks for the report genius. Which you made up.

The New York Times has jumped ship. You should too.

Even N.Y. Times concedes Ukrainian soldiers wearing Nazi symbols
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4159424/posts

24 posted on 06/16/2023 4:55:26 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Neanderthal

So the offensive was for 10 days and is over already...

Because you fantasized that.

Except it just started, has made progress and is far from over. but hey why even acknowledge reality.


25 posted on 06/16/2023 4:56:57 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

oh the nazi symbols lost the offensive?

I bet you married Taylor Swift too.


26 posted on 06/16/2023 4:57:58 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: USA-FRANCE

Keep telling yourself that. Even zelensky says it’s not going great.

You sound like some of the people around here who are gonna have a mental breakdown when Russia wins the war.

And they eventually will.


27 posted on 06/16/2023 5:03:25 PM PDT by This_Dude
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To: Kazan

Uke advances are getting beat up, but they haven’t committed a large part of the reserves.


28 posted on 06/16/2023 5:03:35 PM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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To: Kazan

General Silly needs to round up more fags to fight the Russians


29 posted on 06/16/2023 5:04:27 PM PDT by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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To: USA-FRANCE

The summer-fall-winter-spring Great Offensive started on June 4.


30 posted on 06/16/2023 5:09:18 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: NWFree
General Silly needs to round up more fags to fight the Russians

He can find the "men" that he needs at the Ministry of Silly Walks.

31 posted on 06/16/2023 5:10:35 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Williams
Except it just started, has made progress

You mean capturing those settlements along the river that are indefensible low-land? The ones where the Russians hold the high ground and form a cauldron around the flanks?

Yeah, that's progress.

32 posted on 06/16/2023 5:11:30 PM PDT by The Iceman Cometh (Casey DeSantis? No thanks. I've already voted for too many Bushes.)
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To: Gunslingr3
Ever hear about what Michael Wittman did at Villers-Bocage on 13 June 1944? Did it alter the result of the war?

"No one expects the Spanish M-4 Firefly Inquisition!"

33 posted on 06/16/2023 5:13:47 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Fido969
Uke advances are getting beat up, but they haven’t committed a large part of the reserves.

Because Ukraine already committed the reserve to Bakhmut and Donetsk. General Zaluzhny opposed this and it's probably why he was fired. Notice there are no more UFA on the Belarus border, north of Kiev. This is the problem. You're running out of people. All you had for the offensive were the 12 specially-trained and NATO-equipped brigades, and they were clobbered.

34 posted on 06/16/2023 5:14:40 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: NWFree
General Silly needs to round up more fags to fight the Russians

Scratch that.

Milley Vanilli So Silly might have to miss a meal to do that - so we know it ain't happenin'.       

35 posted on 06/16/2023 5:15:55 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Kazan
For those who understand Johnson pretends to know more than he knows as he reads Russian MOD talking points of RT and TASS, this is good news.

It means the Ukrainian offensive is right on schedule.

36 posted on 06/16/2023 5:19:39 PM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Слава Україні! 🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni! 🇺🇦 ☭ No CCCP 2.0 ☭)
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To: Kazan

Larry Johnson wrote the words.

So they must be 100% unmitigated bullshit.

Because Larry Johnson wrote the words.

/s


37 posted on 06/16/2023 5:31:56 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner; Kazan
Yep.

You see that "reasoning" from the gullible on this very thread.  

38 posted on 06/16/2023 5:34:37 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Williams

“He estimated that would take about 2 years total.”

Even IF that were true, it would not be this existing equipment and these currently uniformed men that do it.

And it’s very likely US aid will end next year.


39 posted on 06/16/2023 5:37:40 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Williams; kiryandil
NOTHING about the actual offensive, pure opinion.

Except .. . the offensive is succeeding and Ukraine hasn’t yet committed its main forces.

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So, you COMPLAIN about "pure opinion", then offer your OPINION.

What's wrong with you?

40 posted on 06/16/2023 5:53:50 PM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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