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The Bloom Is Off the Ruse – Post Launch Polling Shows DeSantis Losing Support, Not Gaining
theconservativetreehouse ^ | June 1, 2023 | Sundance

Posted on 06/01/2023 8:56:48 PM PDT by backpacker_c

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To: napscoordinator
DeSantis is more conservative than trump.

There was a time when this might have meant something. The problem is that the GOP has completely destroyed its credibility by waving the “Conservative” banner on the campaign trail … and then consistently failing to live up to their promises once they are elected. That’s why the TEA Party came onto the scene in 2010, and that’s why a TV clown like Trump ran roughshod over the establishment GOP field in 2016. It’s also why Trump could easily get 15% of the vote in 2024 if he’s sitting in prison.

61 posted on 06/02/2023 5:40:55 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've just pissed in my pants and nobody can do anything about it." -- Major Fambrough)
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To: SoConPubbie

Heh, just wait until Trump’s next “mean Tweet”, and all the pussies here will get their panties in a twist about it, and it will REALLY mean the end of Trump!


62 posted on 06/02/2023 5:47:05 AM PDT by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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To: rlmorel
Heh, just wait until Trump’s next “mean Tweet”, and all the pussies here will get their panties in a twist

Well we know it’s coming don’t we, because it’s the main tool uses to to trick people into thinking he’s actually doing anything. Exactly why he spent all of 2021 setting up his new echo chamber, instead of contesting the 2020 election or implementing any election security for 2022 and 2024.

63 posted on 06/02/2023 5:52:15 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (Do you really believe Trump when he says Cuomo did better, and DeSantis will raise taxes by 23%? )
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To: Golden Eagle

Ah, another “Eagle” opinion.

I guess your Constitution allows a private citizen to implement things like “election security”. If so, why aren’t you doing it?

Slacker.


64 posted on 06/02/2023 5:58:52 AM PDT by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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To: rlmorel

Trump Raised $250 Million Since Election To Challenge Outcome—Here’s Where Most Of The Money Will Actually Go

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2021/01/31/trump-raised-250-million-since-election-to-challenge-outcome-heres-where-most-of-the-money-will-actually-go/?sh=3bd73b0e8824


65 posted on 06/02/2023 6:07:00 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (Do you really believe Trump when he says Cuomo did better, and DeSantis will raise taxes by 23%? )
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To: Golden Eagle
Forbes, eh? Why not the NYT or the WaPo?

I was going to say you didn't even read it, but the first sentence said : "...which was solicited to fund challenges to the outcome based on specious claims of voter fraud..."

So, I concluded you DID read it. Says a lot about you.

Just as accurate, unbiased, and trustworthy.

66 posted on 06/02/2023 6:29:01 AM PDT by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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To: TheRake

No wonder you’re miserable. You voted for a vegetable. You have zero credibility.


67 posted on 06/02/2023 7:00:14 AM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: central_va

I guess nobody is good with your ridiculous expectations.


68 posted on 06/02/2023 7:00:56 AM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: SoConPubbie

You misunderstood. Somehow. I said nothing pro Desantis.


69 posted on 06/02/2023 7:30:48 AM PDT by Owen
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To: rlmorel

So you’re just going to continue to attack me, rather than address the fact Trump took $250M from donors under the guise of election security, then ran off with it. Pretty much what I expected, anyway.


70 posted on 06/02/2023 7:32:59 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (Do you really believe Trump when he says Cuomo did better, and DeSantis will raise taxes by 23%? )
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To: Golden Eagle

Your issues are with your expectations, which are your own, and the truth (for which you substitute advocacy) so advocacy material from likes of Forbes, NYT, and WaPo is presented as “truth” by you.

Someone who is really interested in actual TRUTH would post something with information on the last four Presidential Election cycles, and post how much money was raised by each candidate, how much was spent by each candidate, how much was NOT spent by each candidate, and what it was spent on.

For example, in a cursory Internet search, Open Secrets which is widely regarded as accurate, shows that in the last four Presidential Elctions, beginning in 2008 (total for both candidates and I presume their election committees) were:

2008: $3.8 Billion
2012: $3.4 Billion
2016: $2.9 Billion
2020: $6.5 Billion

So, I recall reading that Trump raised $800 million and Biden raised 1.1 Billion on their own. What kind of pledges were made by each candidate, and what was that money spent on? That might provide real context instead of a putrid hit piece, and I found that out in about five minutes.

That is what REAL journalists would do, not the non-journalists you are linking to.

That might actually provided some context, where one could decide if this was a REAL issue, or one contrived by a source that has another agenda rather than providing the TRUTH.

But that isn’t what you are interested in.


71 posted on 06/02/2023 9:02:06 AM PDT by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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To: rlmorel

My response was to a poster who asked what *I* was doing to secure elections, when I had simply pointed out Trump hasn’t done anything but post things on his website and whine into a microphone.

The onus is Trump, and the $250 million he scammed from people when he promised to use it for election security. I’m not a billionaire nor have I been donated a dime.

If you or anyone else wants to change that, let me know. Till then, you’ll have to answer for Trump.


72 posted on 06/02/2023 9:08:24 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (Do you really believe Trump when he says Cuomo did better, and DeSantis will raise taxes by 23%? )
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To: Golden Eagle

No. You were stating that Trump (as a private citizen) had the power to secure elections.

Perhaps if he uses that $250 million to get elected, he can do just that. And people GAVE that money to him to get elected.

So you, as a private citizen, what do YOU do to secure elections except sit on your rear end in your basement and be a keyboard warrior?

Or does Golden Eagle just “post things on his website and whine”?


73 posted on 06/02/2023 9:13:26 AM PDT by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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To: rlmorel
You were stating that Trump (as a private citizen) had the power to secure elections.

Which he obviously does. Ever heard of "True the Vote"? If you have, you honestly thought they were government?

How about George Soros, and his organizations that try to make changes to election security, ever heard of those? You think Soros is government?

Mark Zuckerberg?

BARAK OBAMA?????

74 posted on 06/02/2023 9:46:24 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (Do you really believe Trump when he says Cuomo did better, and DeSantis will raise taxes by 23%? )
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To: Golden Eagle

He has no power to “secure elections”, neither do any of those organizations you mentioned. And he did not specify how he was going to work towards that end and people gave money freely to him.

Stealing elections is not the same as securing elections. You appear to think they are two sides of the same coin, and they are not.


75 posted on 06/02/2023 10:00:50 AM PDT by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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To: rlmorel

So Trump is worthless when it comes to securing elections, despite absconding $250M from donors claiming he would do something about them. Thanks for the additional confirmation.


76 posted on 06/02/2023 10:05:26 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (Do you really believe Trump when he says Cuomo did better, and DeSantis will raise taxes by 23%? )
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To: Golden Eagle

Pfft. That is already bouncing around in your head from reviewing the sources you apparently do.

Good sources for skulls full of mush.


77 posted on 06/02/2023 10:07:39 AM PDT by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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To: napscoordinator; All

Oh, nappy. You don’t know me or who I voted for. The only thing that makes me miserable are posers like you. This would be a better place without the likes of you and a few others. Are you calling Trump a vegetable?


78 posted on 06/03/2023 4:32:43 AM PDT by TheRake ("It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled". ~Mark Twain)
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To: TheRake

Calling fetterman one.


79 posted on 06/03/2023 5:18:10 AM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: backpacker_c

80 posted on 07/28/2023 6:46:29 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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