You're there to work. If their boobs are spilling out, take it up with their manager or HR. Definitely don't go:
Posted on 05/24/2023 7:46:17 PM PDT by CheshireTheCat
I've worked for a large bank for 6 years. I have excellent performance reviews. The female co-worker lives/works in California. I do not work with her on any projects nor is she related to my team. Nor are we in the same office. She reached out looking to leave CA to NC. There was a position open on my team & sent her the application. She applied and wasn't granted an interview. She called me mad and frustrated. She filed a complaint two days ago against me with HR. We last texted 3 months ago; HR has this text string. I met with HR, and I'm being investigated. In one text, I said she was "pretty and young". She's accusing me of tracking her and asking verbally if she sold her home and if she wanted to move to NC. I won't have future contact with her. I presented to HR an e-mail chain of her telling me she doesn't like CA and that she wanted to move to NC. I used to consider her a friendly acquaintance. I'm told HR will make a "recommendation" to my manager in 3 days. I have a good relationship with my manager. In the complaint, I did NOT hear the words "sexual harassment" but only "uncomfortable" - I think she is retaliating against me.
The only slimmest of slim chances he has is if the Tart in question sent a photo of herself with her resume. On job postings I have seen and posted, the NUMBER ONE prohibited item is the inclusion of a photo. THAT ALONE is grounds to toss the resume.
Sadly he is still screwed because HR is there ONLY to protect upper management.
Probably was a bad plan to text with her in the first place. Good luck in your future endeavors.
Answer to your question is “yes.”
Especially ones you don’t know.
Never text, always email and cc your and the other parties supervisor, especially if it’s a woman.
Do not offer any assistance only generic information regarding the topic at hand.
Helping a woman in the workplace is a bad idea.
Never hinder them, but dont go out of your way to help, always converse in a public setting, keep a distance and speak in generalities.
If they go to HR about something you are screwed, since HR is the domain of fellow women, you are automatically guilty.
“Helping a woman in a work environment isn’t a good idea”
Especially a woman from California. Years ago, good friends who owned a company, invested in a comprehensive study on types of personalities to NEVER hire and how to conduct interviews to “weed out” these personalities. Three types stood out. This was probably twenty years ago and I will say “women” were not specifically in these categories but I bet they would be today.
That’s right. Don’t look at, and don’t talk to them. On some of my sites, I’ve just straight up skidded them because I literally see production levels go way down. We need traditional families again.
HR needs to be a thing of the last. Ridiculous. Fake degrees for stupid bs.
You're there to work. If their boobs are spilling out, take it up with their manager or HR. Definitely don't go:
I’m guessing you didn’t teach writing skills.
“the chick turned over to HR the entirety of the text messages he and she ever sent each other.”
The internet can bite you!
Yep. I had an employee that liked to use txt to communicate. All my responses went back via email unles it required yes/no replies.
“I think she is retaliating against me.”
I think that’s true. And if the writer is a straight white male, I think he’s in trouble, having worked in the cesspool known as H.R. for several years.
“Protected” people almost always are catered to.
Example: A lesbian employee of the company (a city) had a big wing-ding of a “commitment ceremony” on a Saturday before same-sex marriages were a thing. My boss, the H.R. Director, told us we should attend.
She never had even hinted that we should attend a normal wedding. Kissing up to the female (check box) lesbian (check box). I laughed.
There has been a lot of discussion here from the perspective of men. As a 66 year old female in upper management I will say that 99% of the problems I have endured from my reports over the last 40 years were generated by self-entitled women.
Women report on women to HR as readily as they do on men, but use other tactics. The reality in my profession is that the majority percentile of managers are men, and the majority of support workers are women.
I’m to the point that I’m so adverse to hiring women that I took myself out of the equation. I have my direct report (a minority male)do all the screening and make the final decision on hires for my team.
“Best thing I ever did was to get my time in (toward retirement), then leave the first day possible.”
“Amen!” to that.
Before PC worked its way into every facet of the workplace, going to work was fun for me. Then slowly it turned up-side down and became grueling torture.
I met my wife at work about 40 years ago. I was the Operations Officer at a large directorate at Fort Bliss, and she was employed as an admin aide in the woodshop.
In today's world, there is no doubt in my mind that I would have been accused of wrongdoing: not by her, but by any one of a dozen women who were sure she received favorable treatment.
Don’t write something unless you are comfortable with it coming up in discovery.
Three points of advice:
(1) Hire a good employment lawyer, pay him a retainer up front (a prepaid fee), and explain the matter to him, ask his advice, and make sure that he will be available to you as needed. You should be prepared to use him to either fight or negotiate the best severance package possible.
(2) Start looking for a new job. Today’s job market is mostly favorable to job seekers, and leaving the company for an equivalent or better position now may be your best move.
(3) Recognize that, as is often the case, the supposedly offended employee and her allies may have emotional or mental issues and are simply looking to hurt you as a convenient target. The injustice of that sort of thing can be troubling, so reconcile yourself to it and then either fight or get out of the way, but do not let it get you down.
How severely? Fired with no due process.
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