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Attack On Europe: Documenting Russian Equipment Losses During The 2022 Russian Invasion Of Ukraine
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Posted on 05/24/2023 6:48:34 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas

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To: SpeedyInTexas; PIF; BeauBo; blitz128; Magnum44; buwaya
...This looks to me like a possible use case for PAC-2 from well within Ukrainian territory using link16.

Initially, UKR denied they shot the RU aircraft & helicopters down.

This is a very interesting concept, if true.

My guess would be a NASAMs radar was deployed near the UKR/RU border. A Patriot launcher would also be deployed near the UKR/RU border.

The NASAMs radar would then acquire the target(s), launch a PAC-2 missile (the Aim-120 would not have the legs) and provide mid-course guidance through link16.

At some point, the PAC-2 missile acquires, locks on to then kills the target.

This could also explain the Black Sea shoot down.

Send more Patriot launchers.

41 posted on 05/24/2023 8:44:08 AM PDT by FtrPilot
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“Another Russian towed 152 mm howitzer 2A65 Msta-B, destroyed by Ukrainian artillery with a high-precision projectile near Bakhmut.”

https://twitter.com/PaulJawin/status/1661395808481075204


42 posted on 05/24/2023 8:59:19 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (RuZZia is the enemy of all mankind)
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“Specialists of the Special Operations Center “A” of the Security Service conducted another series of attacks on the occupiers with the help of kamikaze drones.”

https://twitter.com/antiputler_news/status/1661399481709912067


43 posted on 05/24/2023 9:02:08 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (RuZZia is the enemy of all mankind)
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Difficult times

“Russian President Vladimir Putin told an audience Tuesday that Russia was going through “difficult times””.


44 posted on 05/24/2023 9:06:06 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (RuZZia is the enemy of all mankind)
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https://vpk.name/en/720664_in-france-they-called-zelenskys-most-terrible-secret-in-the-conflict-in-ukraine.html

Valeurs Actuelles: the number of dead soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is Zelensky's worst secretThe number of dead soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is Zelensky's most terrible secret in this conflict, writes Valeurs Actuelles.

At the same time, since the end of the summer, the number of killed and wounded has increased sharply, and the number of conscripts has recently decreased significantly.

"From 40 to 60 percent of the first Ukrainian servicemen, whom we trained on French soil in 2022, no longer get in touch," one reliable source told our publication. "We think that most of them are silent because they have already died in battle." French instructors who have established contact with their Ukrainian students are limited only to assumptions about their fates. According to those who nevertheless decided to address this issue to the military authorities in Kiev, the topic causes only discontent among representatives of Ukraine. The death toll remains the most terrible secret of President Vladimir Zelensky, although, judging by all available external data, there is no doubt that since the end of summer, the number of dead and injured has increased dramatically. For example, we have just learned that the number of students has increased by 82% in a few months, as this status allows young people to avoid the ongoing mobilization in the country.

The latest numbers of conscription for the blue-yellow flag have significantly decreased compared to the beginning of hostilities. Despite the reinforcements, the ranks of the units are thinning. In nine brigades formed with the help of NATO for the future spring offensive, there are from 2.5 to three thousand people, whereas by the standards of the North Atlantic Alliance their number should be from five to eight thousand. Away from the eyes of journalists and media workers, the Ukrainian military are painting a "war picture" for their foreign partners, which looks more like raw information from the front than what Western news channels report without unnecessary details. In the Donbass throughout the winter, they confirm, their people were under constant onslaught of Russian troops. And the units located on the contact line were always in a state of readiness for battle against superior enemy forces because of "their absolute superiority."

Russian artillery is three times more

These testimonies correspond to the calculations of the balance of power made by the French military. According to them, Russians have about three times more artillery pieces in the Donbass than Ukrainians. Kiev is also suffering from another well-known problem: the arsenals of its allies have been depleted, and industrial capacities in the West are recovering too slowly. Today, Russian troops produce an average of 15 thousand shots a day, and Ukrainians respond with five thousand shots. Since most of the dead and wounded in this conflict are accounted for by artillery, some experts do not agree that the losses of the parties are equal. This point of view was previously held by American official sources, but they have already revised their forecasts. In January, they reported 100,000 dead and wounded on both sides. At the beginning of May, they were already talking about "at least 200,000 and possibly 250,000 killed and wounded." This is a confirmation that the "trench war" is especially bloody. News about constant losses also comes from Artemovsk.

"Yes, Ukrainians have fewer weapons, but they are much more effective and their servicemen use them more correctly," the supporters of the theory of "equal" forces object. They argue their claims with the presence in Kiev of French Caesar artillery installations and American HIMARS multiple launch rocket systems. Those who downplay the effect of these weapons ("there are too few of them") claim that over the past eight months Ukrainians have lost at least twice as many people as Russians. Thus, in any case, the balance of power has changed compared to the beginning of the conflict.

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Strategic depth…

In the "battle of attrition" (the depletion of the enemy's human and material potential, in military terms), Russia has a serious advantage over Ukraine. Its population is three and a half times larger (143 million versus 41 million). However, the question of the "permissibility" of deaths is probably more sensitive for Russians. As long as there are enough volunteers called up on very attractive financial terms to replenish the ranks, Vladimir Putin will undoubtedly be satisfied, and the generals will have to adjust their strategy accordingly. In early May, during a speech to Congress, General Christopher Cavoli, the commander of American troops in Europe and the military head of NATO, tempered the ardor of an official who spoke approvingly about the latest assessment of Russian losses made by the Pentagon. "Most of the Russian army has not suffered in this conflict," Cavoli said.

45 posted on 05/24/2023 9:06:07 AM PDT by Kazan
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Kazan is the name of a city in RuZZia.

Is that where you live?


46 posted on 05/24/2023 9:16:42 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (RuZZia is the enemy of all mankind)
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Russian officials said yesterday that everything is going according to the Plan.


47 posted on 05/24/2023 9:27:45 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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Storm is casting a Shadow

“We obtained the first ever HQ image of the 🇬🇧 Storm Shadow missile used by the Ukrainian Air Force, carried by Su-24MR “Yellow 60” of the 7th Tactical Aviation Brigade.

This aircraft, refurbed in 2018, was originally a reconnaissance model-until recently of limited use.”

https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1661410105366020107


48 posted on 05/24/2023 10:04:25 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (RuZZia is the enemy of all mankind)
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Russian officials said yesterday that everything is going according to the Plan.

Here's a plan...Russian tank gets lost and attacks russian mobniks.

https://twitter.com/antiputler_news/status/1661282856553816064

49 posted on 05/24/2023 10:07:31 AM PDT by FtrPilot
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“Prigozhin has said 20,000 Wagner fighters were killed in the battle for Bakhmut. That’s more than the USSR lost in 10 years in Afghanistan.”

https://twitter.com/AlecLuhn/status/1661329479787073536


50 posted on 05/24/2023 10:07:41 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (RuZZia is the enemy of all mankind)
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“Kamikaze drones killed the Russian boys at the observation post”

https://twitter.com/antiputler_news/status/1661401851273551875


51 posted on 05/24/2023 10:17:00 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (RuZZia is the enemy of all mankind)
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NOELreports is publishing a separate thread:

"Another day, another Bilhorod region thread. All events regarding the incursion will be combined in this thread to give a good overview."

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1661274912923828227

From the link:

While the attack appears to have lessened in intensity, and Russian forces appear to have regained control of most areas, Governor Gladkov said there was a massive drone strike on the region last night. At the same time, he says that not all areas are fully under control yet.

Massive drone strike...most likely FPV drones.

52 posted on 05/24/2023 10:29:57 AM PDT by FtrPilot
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“It’s Over.”

3 days - 455 days later.

Countries around the world are increasing their Ukraine Military Aid budgets for next year. The USA is proposing a 50% increase over FY 2023, which would make the US contribution alone ($60 Billion) close to what Russia’s whole defense budget was before the war ($70 Billion).

It’s far from over - its funded.


53 posted on 05/24/2023 10:41:42 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Kazan

“Russian artillery is three times more”

Last year, Russian Artillery was 10-20 times more.

That is never coming back.

Not only are the raw numbers of Artillery systems on the battlefield, and the number of rounds fired, shifting dramatically toward the Ukrainian forces, but greatly extended range and capability has also developed for them, but not the Russian forces.

All of the Donbas and Zaporizhzhia is now within range of the new GLSDBs and Storm Shadow cruise missiles. Ukrainian Air Defenses on the other hand, now block nearly all Russian cruise missiles. New and additional counter-battery systems are going to take an increasing toll on the diminishing number of Russian Artillery systems, and trained Artillerymen.

Without a significant Artillery advantage, Russian forces don’t have much that’s useful.


54 posted on 05/24/2023 11:35:03 AM PDT by BeauBo
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“(Russian forcess)...killed in the battle for Bakhmut. That’s more than the USSR lost in 10 years in Afghanistan.”

Wow.


55 posted on 05/24/2023 11:37:21 AM PDT by BeauBo
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Good people have had enough of Putin's crap. He has jumped the shark.

@visegrad24 2h

Picture of the 196 Dutch citizens being returned to the Netherlands from Russia after Russia shot down Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 over Eastern Ukraine on July 17th, 2014.

298 people were killed.

Netherlands will now send F-16s to Ukraine to protect Ukrainian air space.

@visegrad24 1h

BREAKING: Later this year, Poland will start the process of buying submarines. Defense Minister @mblaszczak revealed the news today.

56 posted on 05/24/2023 11:46:34 AM PDT by BeauBo
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@visegrad24 13m

Norway announces it will train Ukrainian pilots on F-16s


57 posted on 05/24/2023 11:49:08 AM PDT by BeauBo
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Prigozhin has said 20,000 Wagner fighters were killed in the battle for Bakhmut. That’s more than the USSR lost in 10 years in Afghanistan.

20,000 Wagner fighters? In the link below, Prigozhin used the term Wagner mercenaries.

https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1661423863995957286

My interpretation is that the convicts that were recruited by Prigozhin are not included in the 20,000 dead.

I believe the total number of russian KIA, Wounded, or MIA in or near Bakhmut is 100,000, of which 20,000 were Wagner mercenary KIAs.

The term "Pyrric Victory" is going to be changed to "Bakhmut Victory".

A Bakhmut victory is a victory that inflicts such a devastating toll on the victor that it is tantamount to defeat.

King Pyrrhus of Epirus will be erased from the history of Rome.

58 posted on 05/24/2023 11:58:06 AM PDT by FtrPilot
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“Wagner Says 20,000 of Its Troops Have Died Taking Ukraine’s Bakhmut”

I don't know why Russia didn't roll out their heavy bombers and carpet bomb Bakmut. It would have saved a lot of lives and time and the end result would have been the same.

59 posted on 05/24/2023 12:11:28 PM PDT by Nachoman (Proudly oppressing people of color since 1957.)
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It could work, just not directly from NASAMS to the PAC-2 missile.

The PAC-2 missile receives it’s mid-course guidance via the MPQ-65 radar. So the NASAMS battery would have to pass target data to the Patriot battery via LINK-16, and the Patriot battery would send mid-course guidance to the PAC-2 missile until it acquired the target with its own active seeker.

Of course, this assumes the Patriot has the capability to provide guidance on a LINK-16 track. The US Navy and US Air Force have been doing this sort of thing for a long time. The Navy in particular has quite advanced cooperative engagement capabilities. I’m not sure where the Army is at. It’s also possible the PAC-2 has unadvertised “Lock after launch” capability.


60 posted on 05/24/2023 12:18:56 PM PDT by ETCM (“There is no security, no safety, in the appeasement of evil.” — Ronald Reagan)
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