Posted on 05/18/2023 3:36:14 AM PDT by marktwain
True. The if you hit something is the critical part. Ever seen a griz charge? It’s lightning fast, a few second at best and they’re on you. Unless you train for it routinely, you’re not likely to hit anything with your 1, maybe 2, shots from a .44 wheel gun. Especially the old men I see carrying them around here (SW Montana). Mag dumping a 15+1 10mm if the best way to save your hide.
Pull your panties up! I go fishing, hunting or camping in griz country WEEKLY (SW Montana). Is there a hint of danger… sure. That’s what makes it fun.
Man has a responsibility to make room for the animals of this Earth. Did you see the picture of the island? Barren, nothing can grow on it that far north. It’s likely a resting ground for a polar bear, where else can the polar bear go? Why should the polar bear make way for man who cannot survive such desolation without bringing provisions? The polar bear can survive it all on its own, that place is his habitat, not for Man.
SUre, we all love meat and have learned to cull and maintain breeding stock for our circular food supply, because we are intelligent in our peculiar way. But, did Noah save 2 of every animal so we could eventually just shoot them? God giving man dominion has been interpreted by trigger happy idiots as shoot everything for fun and kill all the animals wherever we go.
Based on real world attacks, the loud noise and sudden pain from a handgun is enough to break off most grizzly attacks. Including 9mm handguns. Doesn’t kill them, but makes them change their mind.
If you meet a really determined grizzly or polar bear, a 375 H&H Magnum is about the smallest thing that counts.
“But, did Noah save 2 of every animal so we could eventually just shoot them?”
Noah knew that the 2 would reproduce and create plenty of targets.
Very good.
I hunt and eat what I shoot. A barren island is a staging ground for fat bears to hunt seals. Seals don’t eat what’s on the island either. They eat sea food.
BTW. The whole gore-bull warming joke about polar bears dying out is another leftist myth. There are more than ever
White bear supremacist?
Carrying a 9mm here for bears is ill-advised. You are right regarding a determined griz but a 10mm CAN put a a griz down (happens several times a year here) whereas 9 just can’t penetrate, especially late in year when they’re in hyperphagia (getting fat) and can be super aggressive. If the noise doesn’t break the charge you F’d…. A 10mm can actually stop them (mag dumps). My EDC is a 9mm, but not for the backcountry and don’t know anyone of us who carry less than 10mm. Ideally I’d walk around with 12 gauge slugs but that’s not realistic for what I’m doing out there.
Going fishing on the Gallatin later today… let’s change the convo 😂😂
A friend worked for the Forest service years ago, crawling around in the Alaska brush where the Brown Bears would leave half a salmon with the blood still squirting out and my friend having no idea where the bear was. They were required to carry 375 H&H Magnums suspended at waist level. Qualification was hitting a pie plate at 15 feet while shooting from the hip.
greater yellowstone griz are significantly smaller than Alaskan brown due to diet.
A .44 magnum in 20 mph winds works just fine. 😏
Well we have a seasoned bear man here
He certainly convinced me and should be pinged to all “bar thrayeds”
Riverruner
My goodness - nobody parroted the tired old trite “File off the front sight” BS.
“Screw bear spray. Its not reliable.”
With 30 mph winds, you risk the spray being blown right back at you.
Did he fire all 6 or just 5???
Talk to the federal government. They weren’t there for fun, they were there on duty.
I was a housemate with a Coasty many years ago. His previous duty station was Kodiak Island. He packed heat if he left the base/town. Not sure how that works these days...
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