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To: Rummyfan

California never had the finest educational system. Most expensive I can believe but tennis courts and swimming pools aren’t education.


3 posted on 05/15/2023 2:15:22 PM PDT by Varda
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To: Varda

California never had the finest educational system.


This is of course subjective but as someone who attended grades K to 9 in California in the 1950s I would have to say from my point of view the education system was first rate.

Back then everything from books to paper and pencils were provided, discipline was enforced with the “board of education” and there was no “one size fit all” to discipline.

I was not the greatest of students but I was given a good basis of skills that helped my entire life.

Finest? Don’t know, but certainly good.


7 posted on 05/15/2023 2:57:06 PM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I am not an expert in anything, and my opinion is just that, an opinion. I may be wrong.)
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To: Varda
California never had the finest educational system.

California schools were ranked AT THE TOP OR NEAR UNTIL THEY LET THE TEACHERS UNIONIZE NOW IT IS AT THE BOTTOM OR NEAR BOTTOM.thank ex gov. Jerry Brown, who ruined what his father had accomplished

8 posted on 05/15/2023 3:02:11 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Varda

In the 1960s, the article says, is that where you saw these courts and swimming pools?

I can say that I received a very good education from a high school in the East Bay that had a few asphalt tennis courts but no swimming pool. What we had was a growing population that allowed the school to hire about five new teachers each year. They led the faculty in a top quality college track education, which I was able to sneak into. (First of my family to make it to college.) Incidently the system had a strong shop class structure that produced students who were equiped to immediately enter the blue collar society that also was flourshing.

I also became a teacher (and engineer — two careers) but I watched as education took a back seat to teachers growing old and gaining seniority. Sadly, this brought education standards down and my old high school fell into disunity and students fell a few levels in their grades.

I cannot fault the political party as this article does except for the erroneous concept that public servants (teachers Etc. ) should have the power to unionize and work politically to support the community leaders who will run these same institutions.

I don’t have a problem with corporate workers who wish to unionize, but allowing civil servants the same privilege does not support a growing and meritorious society.


9 posted on 05/15/2023 3:07:58 PM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (retired aerospace engineer and CSP who also taught)
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To: Varda

I am a product of the educational system from 1960 to 1973 never a worry about buying school supplies, even driver Ed was free, even community College was free.


10 posted on 05/15/2023 3:08:26 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: Varda

Today: California students with parent income under $60K don’t pay tuition/fees. (There are holes in this at the level of 2-3% of those students...,) Back in the Golden Past of the 60’s & 70’s, they would have paid $120/$240/$540 depending on year, which corresponds to $860/$1520/$2756 now, but they don’t pay tuition/fees now. So for those students, roughly half of all UC students, the situation is better now that the “tuition free” Golden Past. It’s actually much better now, because most of those students are getting money for living expenses, books, etc, from the federal government, state of California and UC (and paid for by you the poor taxpayer sap).


13 posted on 05/15/2023 3:45:58 PM PDT by Bookshelf
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To: Varda

Nor did they invent the modern highway. We copied that from Germany.


29 posted on 05/15/2023 7:44:30 PM PDT by ealgeone
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