Posted on 05/09/2023 1:58:02 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
Steve Cortes went Judas Iscariot and endorsed Ron DeSantis for President. However, most of us know poor Steve's sad, inevitable fate. It will be much like what happened to Holy Roman Emperor Henry IV in 1077 A.D. after he was excommunicated by Pope Gregory VII and was forced to humbly appear at the gates of Canossa Castle to beg forgiveness of the Pope on his knees barefoot for three days and three nights clad only in wretched woolen garments. We can expect something similar to happen next year in 2024 when Judas Iscariot Cortes will be forced to arrive at the gates of Mar-a-Lago to beg forgiveness from President Trump.
And remember, Steve, those woolen garments you will be required to wear while on your knees MUST be wretched or your supplications won't count.
PING!
Is Cortes still welcome on War Room? Haven’t seen him lately.
Why would he be Welcome?
After this announcement from Steve Cortes, I doubt he will be on the War Room any time soon.
This kind of piece is why liberals call it a cult.
His whole approach as to why he is shifting candidates was based upon political reasons. Not one iota of what it means to the citizens. It’s who can win, not what can the candidate actually do.
Trump has shown what he can do in office: economy, immigration control, treatment of foreign nations, reeling in the press, and slowly identifying the conservatives that were not in favor of the citizens but of themselves.
DeSantis platform consists of his proposal to protect Floridians’ digital rights and privacy from Big Tech companies by creating a Digital Bill of Rights that focuses on protecting Floridians’ privacy, protecting minors from online harms, and eliminating unfair censorship. The proposal also bans the use of TikTok and other social media platforms with ties to China from all state government devices, and through internet services at colleges, universities, and public schools, and prohibits state and local government employees from coordinating with Big Tech companies to censor protected speech. This proposal is for the 2023 Florida Legislative Session that begins in March.
It reeks of liberal.
wy69
Bannon frequently had Cortes on his show. Cortes is very much a conservative. Bannon would refer to him as "brother Cortes".
Another way of asking my question would be: 'Does Bannon excommunicate conservatives who don't support Trump? It would seem he does.
'Protecting user/citizens privacy; banning access to China platforms; prohibiting 'government employee - big tech' coordination.
How are any part of these proposals 'liberal'?
Then you answered your on question.
Fear not. I’m sure CNN, and MSNBC and the Alphabet Networks
will roll out the Red Carpet for Cortes.
“’Protecting user/citizens privacy; banning access to China platforms; prohibiting ‘government employee - big tech’ coordination.”
All interesting thoughts, but are they sustainable?
“Protecting user/citizens privacy; banning access to China platforms;”
The first thing I noticed about this is that it is exactly opposite of each point. How can you protect anyone’s privacy by ordering them to do something directly opposite of what they want to do? Is that not supposed to be a privilege under the Constitution that as long as it is not unlawful it can be performed? That’s intruding, not protecting. My parents should do that, not my government. If I do something unlawful then arrest me and stop me. But you can’t throw up an all purpose wall to stop me from doing legal things. There are already laws in place for that.
The measures signed will restrict land ownership in Florida by Chinese citizens, ban the use of Chinese-owned social media platforms such as TikTok and WeChat on government devices and further limit colleges and universities from building relationships with foreign “countries of concern” such as China.
“prohibiting ‘government employee - big tech’ coordination.”
You can’t stop or determine who can and who can’t consider themselves the authority of what business can be transpired between government and business. If you aim it at one area, then the government is discriminating lacking equal protection under the law. And if there is no coordination, then how is business going to export and import their goods? How are they going to be in check for violations of the law? And which laws are going to be determined in each state?
And the part I really don’t understand is protecting censure protected speech. If the government is going to create a law to make speech an unprotected product, then most of the laws we have in place now are history. You can’t have one without the other. Either you protect it, or display it. No secrets here.
For years, the conservative party has been the party of rule of law. His platform doesn’t go that way. He is creating laws to overbear feelings and not laws. If everything is being done within the law, then the conservatives should be happy. The liberals created laws to control the people, not enhance them. Everything about this legislation is to stop someone from doing something.
Cutting off Chinese citizens, as a group, from buying land is the direct opposite of why this country was founded. Can the French do it? Or maybe the Canadians? Our forefathers came here to live their lives the way they wanted as long as it was within the established laws. Making new laws to control that is liberal, not conservative.
wy69
So, I pose the question: As conservatives, would it be right to selectively obey laws we like but disobey those we disagree with? Personally, I would answer this question with a qualified "yes", i.e., if a given law is evil/immoral in light of my Christian convictions, I would not comply with that law. E.g., Nazi law requiring citizens to turn-in Jews.
If DeSantis' proposals become Florida laws and those laws are upheld by the FL and Fed Supreme courts, are you suggesting that conservatives disobey those laws?
“...are you suggesting that conservatives disobey those laws?”
Absolutely not. If the Florida state, to include a vote of the citizenship, decides to make a law that can be damaging to people against the Constitution, then that’s their privilege. Will I support Florida businesses or products? No. But that’s my privilege.
Also, consider that Florida is the 8th largest destination for imports into the U.S. Florida reached an all-time record of $190 billion in two-way merchandise trade in 2022, growing by $25.6 billion, an increase of 15.6%. The state’s trade with the world has not only rebounded but grew by more than 40% since 2020.
Florida is also a huge import/export employer with approximately 232K jobs that will be effected if a country like China is cut short. And there is no estimate as to what it will do to interstate commerce.
“As conservatives, would it be right to selectively obey laws we like but disobey those we disagree with? Personally, I would answer this question with a qualified “yes”, i.e., if a given law is evil/immoral in light of my Christian convictions, I would not comply with that law. E.g., Nazi law requiring citizens to turn-in Jews.”
Laws are on the book in many states that are borderline stupid. There are laws in the states that are inconsistent with established law and need to be reviewed. But making a new law over the top of it is the type of thing I don’t tolerate with politicians trying to twist the old law.
If you don’t like a law, get people like you and go to the politicians to have it changed. In the mean time, because you selected your leaders, you are responsible to follow the law. Not complying with the law is an offense. Different people’s level of immorality or evil is not within the confines of an individual decision.
Interesting you wouldn’t turn in Jews but you are denying Chinese the same rights we all are guaranteed under the Constitution and singling them out just because they are Chinese. If the law is wrong in your mind, try to get it changed. Otherwise move out of Florida as that’s what they are doing. And I’m not sure it will get by the court system with this singling out process unless there is a Constitutional Amendment denying certain countries access to things accessible to other countries. No democracy there.
wy69
I agree. We have a republican form of government - not a pure democracy.
Interesting you wouldn’t turn in Jews but you are denying Chinese the same rights we all are guaranteed under the Constitution and singling them out just because they are Chinese.
Possibly you're conflating the CCP and a Chinese individual. "The Chinese" we're talking about is the CCP. Just as the Nazi government controlled and dictated all German communication to the outside world and also filtered/managed foreign news/communication, similarly the CCP controls and dictates all Chinese social, news, media and other platforms. The voice and industry of the Chinese people are wholly controlled by the CCP. Cutting off all CCP platforms, which undermine our nation, should be the law of the land IMHO.
If I have my choice to live in a world where either the CCP or the USA hold world hegemony - I'll choose my country.
“Possibly you’re conflating the CCP and a Chinese individual.”
No, the law is. By cutting out the purchase of land in Florida by the Chinese they have penalized those people from the promise of immigration legally done for those that made it here.
While the number of Chinese immigrants in the United States peaked at almost 2.5 million in 2019, it fell to under 2.4 million in 2021, breaking a long period of growth. A lot of this was created by the restrictions of the pandemic along with tighter visa rules for international students and foreign workers throughout 2020.
The United States is the top destination for Chinese immigrants worldwide, accounting for about 28 percent of the 8.6 million Chinese living outside China, Hong Kong, or Macau, according to mid-2020 estimates by the United Nations Population Division. Other popular destinations include Canada (930,000), South Korea (803,000), Japan (776,000), Australia (764,000), and Singapore (514,000).
So is it the CCP or the wishes of the Chinese people trying to get to America to improve themselves. Thus even if you consider half of those coming here to actually live in the country were doing for the CCP, only, it is still 1.2 million people. According to the US census, the U.S. resident population increased by 0.4%, or 1,256,003, to 333,287,557 measured in December 2022. So the math says that 2.4 million Chinese immigrants live in the US. That sound like a land grab? And that percentage is without the ones I gave you as possibly working for the CCP.
So the state of Florida is going to punish that amount of people without facts that they are government agents? You give the Chinese government too much credit. And you’re right, it can be a democracy. And that’s where people are innocent until proven guilty to include the Jews and the Chinese.
wy69
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