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Ron DeSantis Flies To Israel To Destroy Free Speech In Florida
Gab News ^ | 04/27/2023 | Andrew Torba

Posted on 04/28/2023 9:08:32 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

This week Governor Ron DeSantis of Florida made a trip to Israel to sign HB 269, a bill that makes it a felony with up to five years in jail for passing out “offensive” flyers or pamphlets. This move has been widely criticized by free speech advocates and legal experts as a gross violation of the First Amendment. The bill states that anyone distributing “any material for the purpose of intimidating or threatening the owner” could be convicted of a felony “hate crime.” While we often write about the “hate speech” rules on Big Tech platforms, this is far worse. This is the state of Florida violating the First Amendment of the United States.

The legislation came about after activists from a group called the Goyim Defense League made headlines for several years for their activism efforts. The Goyim Defense League’s activism takes the form of distributing flyers that contain “uncomfortable truths” about the individuals who control the mainstream media in the United States. These flyers have been handed out across multiple states, including Florida, and have been met with mixed reactions from the public.

Despite the controversy surrounding the flyers, it is worth noting that they contain no threats of violence or threatening language. Rather, they present what the Goyim Defense League sees as a reality about the individuals who control the mainstream media, and invite readers to consider a different perspective. While some might consider this information to be “offensive,” there is nothing inherently threatening or “intimidating” about the distribution of flyers with factual information on them. The flyers even have a statement on them noting that they are “distributed randomly without malicious intent.”

The First Amendment of the United States Constitution guarantees the right to freedom of speech, religion, press, assembly, and petition. This means that individuals have the right to express their opinions, even if those opinions are controversial or unpopular. The government cannot censor or punish individuals for their speech, unless it poses an imminent danger or threat to others.

HB 269, however, seeks to criminalize speech that is deemed “intimidating” by the state. This is an extremely vague and subjective standard, and it could be used to silence a wide range of speech that is protected by the First Amendment. It is important to note that the Supreme Court has repeatedly held that speech that some may find offensive is still protected under the First Amendment. This isn’t the first time Ron DeSantis has signed anti-First Amendment legislation while in Israel. Governor Ron DeSantis signed HB 741, also known as the “Combating Public Disorder” bill, into law on May 14, 2019, in Jerusalem, Israel. The signing ceremony took place at the David Citadel Hotel, where DeSantis was joined by several prominent Jewish leaders and members of the Israeli government.

The bill aims to protect religious institutions and their members from discrimination and harassment. However, many have argued that it does much more than that, and that it represents a serious threat to free speech and civil liberties.

One of the main provisions of HB 741 is a requirement that all Florida public schools, colleges, and universities adopt a definition of anti-Semitism that includes certain forms of criticism of Israel. The definition in question is the one adopted by the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance, which defines anti-Semitism as “a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred toward Jews” and includes examples such as “denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination” and “applying double standards to Israel.”

Critics of HB 741 argue that this definition is overly broad and could be used to stifle legitimate criticism of Israel and its policies. They point out that the definition includes language that could be interpreted as equating anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism, even though the two are not the same thing. They also argue that the definition is not necessary, as schools and universities already have policies in place to address discrimination and harassment.

Another provision of HB 741 requires law enforcement agencies to conduct training on identifying and responding to anti-Semitic incidents. Many have raised concerns that this provision could be used to target legitimate forms of protest and dissent. For example, if a group of pro-Palestinian activists were to stage a peaceful demonstration outside an Israeli consulate or embassy, could they be accused of engaging in an anti-Semitic incident?

Perhaps most controversially, HB 741 creates a private right of action for people who believe they have been discriminated against on the basis of their religion. This means that individuals who feel that they have been the victim of anti-Semitic discrimination can sue the alleged perpetrator for damages. This is highly likely to be used to stifle free speech and dissent. For example, a professor who expresses a controversial opinion about Israel could potentially be sued by a student who disagrees with them and feels that their religious beliefs have been discriminated against.

The fact that Governor DeSantis flew to a foreign country to sign both of these bills is absurd. Florida is a state in the United States, and its laws should be signed within the state’s borders. The reality that Gov. DeSantis chose to sign these bills in Israel, a foreign country, raises serious questions about his priorities and commitment to upholding the Constitution for the citizens of the United States and his state of Florida.

The implications of HB 269 and HB 741 are deeply troubling. They could be used to silence political dissent, punish those who criticize government officials, or suppress speech that challenges the status quo. In short, it is a direct attack on the First Amendment and the principles of free speech that are so essential to a healthy society.

We must be willing to engage in open dialogue with those who hold different views, and to stand up for our rights even when it is uncomfortable or unpopular to do so.

This means supporting organizations and individuals who are working to protect free speech, like Gab, and advocating for policies that promote openness and transparency in government. It also means being willing to speak out against efforts to silence dissent or suppress speech even when they come from our own political allies.

The defense of our fundamental rights is not a partisan issue. It is a matter of basic human dignity and freedom and it requires all of us to stand up and be counted. We must remain vigilant in the face of attempts to suppress speech and dissent, and be willing to push back against these efforts wherever they arise. Only by doing so can we ensure that America remains free for generations to come.

Andrew Torba

CEO, Gab.com


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: cryptonazis; desantis; donatedonaldtrump; donatetrump; florida; freespeech; gangs; mobs; neonazis
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To: skr
A home should be a safe place from mobs pretending to express free speech but really intending to frighten those they disagree with, including the families and neighbors.

You're describing the Antifa and BLM mobs screaming outside people's homes.

This bill is about leaving a flyer on someone's property, and doesn't address mobs.

21 posted on 04/28/2023 11:08:42 PM PDT by Angelino97
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To: Angelino97

Now that is a really good analysis.

ANYTHING with a “Hate Crime” designation is pure Bolshevik Thought Crime and ripe for abuse. The entire reason such a designation is IN a law is to provide an opportunity for abuse.

No American “conservative” would be caught dead signing off on such a thing.


22 posted on 04/28/2023 11:20:03 PM PDT by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: Regulator
I don't think the bill says "hate crime," but that's what it is. The bill sets vague, subjective standards of feeling "intimidated" by a flyer.

I might feel "intimidated" by a BLM flyer denouncing "whiteness," but I doubt my feelings would trigger a felony prosecution, whereas the feelings of a "protected class" might.

23 posted on 04/29/2023 12:43:09 AM PDT by Angelino97
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To: AndyTheBear

Your credibility is impressive after years of weaponization by the left. Intimidation is in the mind; it cannot be measured. When someone claims to be intimidated there is presumed to be a crime. When you leave a flier on a doorstep the person involved or even a third party can claim intimidation and harassment. Vague laws are a gift to lawyers & to the left.
In example: The result of “triggering” prohibitions at University has been the death of free speech and full throated unopposed wokism.


24 posted on 04/29/2023 4:33:36 AM PDT by JayGalt (Convenience is the bait in which the true poison is concealed.)
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To: skr

To keep the home “safe” you put society in the hands of the thought police. They will not be on the side of small government and individual freedom. The illusion of protection will dissolve in the reality of oppression.
Those posters supporting these kind of laws are inviting the “thought police”, gestapo into their own neighborhoods. You will only be allowed to promote the “right views” the State views.


25 posted on 04/29/2023 4:38:13 AM PDT by JayGalt (Convenience is the bait in which the true poison is concealed.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Gab.com, the home of the NeoNazi movement.


26 posted on 04/29/2023 4:53:24 AM PDT by CodeToad (No Arm up! They have!)
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To: AndyTheBear

RE: prohibiting a person from distributing onto private property any material which contains a credible threat to the owner, resident…

What does “credible threat” mean?

If someone for instance puts a pro-Trump flyer into a person’s mailbox, and the person who hates Trump feels he is threatened by it, can the person invoke HB 269?

Does this bill go into the details of what constitutes a credible threat?


27 posted on 04/29/2023 5:06:13 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: AndyTheBear
The state is saying a pamphlet is litter. That's the state of our government these days. This is no different than putting a pamphlet on a mosque door and saying we don't like the praying 5 times a day. The state would consider that pamphlet litter and a threat. This type of scenarios will be used to squash covid theories or any similar concerns as well.

Naturally any pro life pamphlet on a abortion clinic or bibble tract can easily be considered hate by a homo group or other religious group.

28 posted on 04/29/2023 5:06:43 AM PDT by Theoria
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To: thefactor

RE: You post lies, you don’t actually read the legislation about which you comment,

I only asked a question. Up to the time you posted, I never made any comment. Please direct your ire at the author of the article.


29 posted on 04/29/2023 5:08:14 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: CodeToad

It’s all an effort to separate him from his base.
1/ DeSantis is in Israel, like it’s a bad thing.
2/ DeSantis hates free speech and the Constitution.

A real twofer.

EC


30 posted on 04/29/2023 5:10:51 AM PDT by Ex-Con777
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To: SeekAndFind

“Please direct your ire at the author of the article.”

You posted it.


31 posted on 04/29/2023 5:23:53 AM PDT by CodeToad (No Arm up! They have!)
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To: CodeToad

RE: You posted it.

A post does not necessarily mean one agrees with the writer. It is posted to elicit comments and if possible, rebuttals, which many posters have done.


32 posted on 04/29/2023 5:34:34 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: AndyTheBear

I tried accessing the link you provided :

https://m.flsenate.gov/

My Safari browser says the Server cannot be found


33 posted on 04/29/2023 5:41:12 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: AndyTheBear

Ok, the state’s website was probably down for a short while. I am able to access it now.


34 posted on 04/29/2023 5:43:14 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: thefactor

You are right. The posted article should be put on roses. It is not an anti-free speech law. It is a public nuisance any intimidation law. It is summed up in the bill’s language,

“ENROLLED

“hb0269-03-er
Page 1 of 7
F L O R I D A H O U S E O F R E P R E S E N T A T I V E S
1
An act relating to public nuisances; amending s.2
403.413, F.S.; prohibiting a person from distributing3
onto private property any material for the purpose of4
intimidating or threatening the owner, resident, or5
invitee of such property; providing criminal6
penalties; prohibiting a person from distributing onto7
private property any material which contains a8
credible threat to the owner, resident, or invitee of9
such property;...”


35 posted on 04/29/2023 7:12:13 AM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: Tired of Taxes

BINGO!


36 posted on 04/29/2023 7:12:43 AM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: SeekAndFind
from Governor DeSantis’ website:

https://www.flgov.com/2023/04/28/governor-ron-desantis-signs-enhanced-anti-antisemitism-and-anti-bds-legislation-in-israel/

JERUSALEM, Israel – Today, Governor Ron DeSantis visited Israel as part of his international trade mission where he signed House Bill 269 to provide law enforcement agencies with new enforcement mechanisms to punish perpetrators of antisemitic incidents and those who target religious communities. By signing HB 269, Governor DeSantis has once again made Florida a leader on protecting religious liberty and the State of Israel both in the United States and around the world. To read a summary of the bill, click here.

37 posted on 04/29/2023 7:39:59 AM PDT by yelostar (AI: another make-believe problem created to coerce the citizen into surrendering his freedom.)
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To: SeekAndFind

So harassment is free speech???


38 posted on 04/29/2023 8:17:02 AM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: TBP

No, harassment is not free speech. The only concern is the possibility of an OVERLY BROAD understanding of what harassment constitutes.

So for instance, if a pro-lifer distributes a flyer or literature not far from an abortion clinic to disuade a woman from aborting her baby, is that harassment?

The intent might be to protect conservatives and parents, but there could be unintended consequences.


39 posted on 04/29/2023 9:28:23 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s why it’s defined as narrowly as it is.


40 posted on 04/29/2023 9:29:33 AM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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