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The murder of Tiberius Garcchus. Public domain. Public Domain
1 posted on 04/07/2023 9:16:32 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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The late Roman Republic had the equivalent of our “Swamp,” which it called the Senate. While ostensibly there were balancing powers of influence, such as the assemblies, two Consuls (a split executive office with a term of one year) and, occasionally, the appointment of a temporary Dictator, the reality is that the Senate, made up of the richest and most powerful citizens, ran the Republic. Even when one of the assemblies or one of the Consuls seemed to be ascendant, it was the senators calling most of the shots through their relationships with the state officials, familial connections to this or that general, and their control of the purse strings.

So, you have a body of rich and powerful citizens having ostensibly limited power through the visible levers of government, but actually exercising real power through the connections, relationships, and shared ideology of the apparatchiks in the bureaucracy, the opinion makers, and those who indoctrinate the youth who always act as the frontline shock troops. Sound familiar?

Things have changed a lot in 2,000 years, but the nature of man…not so much. Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. As with most things today, political changes happen faster than they did in the past.

It took 100 years—from Gracchus’s emergence on the Roman stage until Augustus’s ascendance—for Rome to transform from a republic to an empire. It has taken less than 20 years since Barack Obama promised to “fundamentally transform” America for the country to change from a functioning but imperfect republic into a farce of a country characterized by a banana-republic-level tyranny.
2 posted on 04/07/2023 9:18:06 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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4 posted on 04/07/2023 9:58:01 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog. )
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The Founders were well aware of Roman history. They knew power would tend to centralize into the District of Corruption. As a final protection they gave the states the power to revise the Constitution through a convention of states.

It is such a powerful tool that both sides have always feared the other side would use it to take control away from the other. Even an impending Civil war was not incentive enough to get it done. That war ended up modifying the Constitution though bloodshed instead.

How about we avoid the bloody part this time ? We can always go blood thirsty crazy if it does not work and have another Civil War.

5 posted on 04/07/2023 10:37:34 PM PDT by Nateman (If Mohammad was not the Anti Christ Mad Moe definitely comes in as a Strong second..)
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...and the Romans kept going on conquest, but then found out that the ‘Barbarians’ actually did have brains and started to push back and creating an alternative to the Aureus (Roman currency). Then Rome started blowing up the aqueducts that fed cities that revolted. And then they got their puppet in Greece, Zelenskopolis, to fight a war against Carthage - which was great for the Romacons (never-ending warmongers of Rome), but wound up with a lot of dead Greeks, and served no useful purpose as the ‘Barbarians’ won anyway, due to their hypersonic missiles.

(well, it didn’t quite end that way, but close enough)


7 posted on 04/07/2023 11:18:44 PM PDT by BobL
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Following in the roman tradition started by Caligula, Joe Biden the sniffer has named his horse as his consul.


8 posted on 04/08/2023 1:05:56 AM PDT by George J. Jetso
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9 posted on 04/08/2023 4:19:58 AM PDT by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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What is a “Marian partisan”?


10 posted on 04/08/2023 4:21:14 AM PDT by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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“...makes one wonder if the members of the Democrat party have ever picked up a history book...”

Assigning ignorance of history to the Biden administration is actually granting the ghouls the benefit of good intentions.

I wonder why people find it so hard to perceive that the Biden administration has as its goal the complete destruction of the American nation.

The selling off of the oil reserves, totally unnecessary, is just one indication that it intends to crash the economy beyond remediation. They don’t intend for the country to have a fall-back option for fuel, food, sound currency, belief in the nation, trust, nothing.


15 posted on 04/08/2023 5:12:03 AM PDT by odawg
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How about the wholesale imperial selling of Roman citizenship to the point that being a citizen of Rome was worthless?


17 posted on 04/08/2023 5:55:56 AM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Dems: We cheated fair and square!!!)
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From 1963...

Bureaucracy Kills: A Lesson from Rome

18 posted on 04/08/2023 6:00:53 AM PDT by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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The Republic’s collapse had been put in motion 80 years before with the murder of Tiberius Gracchus.
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Well approximately 60 years ago, John F Kennedy was murdered.

And now comes the indictment of Trump, a former President.

Our Republic is no longer a Republic Dr. Franklin.


19 posted on 04/08/2023 6:05:51 AM PDT by HypatiaTaught ( Born Free, Live Free, Die Free)
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Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it.
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America began with 13 Colonies, as Christ began with Him and His 12.

America grew to 50 states, as the New Covenant Church grew at 50.

It appears America has the New Covenant Church as its foundation.

A very unique nation.

The bible shows that both the shepherd and priest staffs of Moses and Aaron transformed into serpents to help cause Israel to believe.
The Disciples in Mark were told to carry the staffs. That’s the ultimate role of the Church- to lead and minister.

America and the New Covenant Church may have to have their tails grabbed to rid them of their serpent problems, if history is going to repeat itself.

Both Peter and Judas, the first and last disciples were either called Satan, or had Satan enter them.
And it was Divine Providence as He chose the 12 and one was a devil.

America and the New Covenant Church could learn their past, present and future, from the bible..
They were going to lead.
They were going to be serpent led for a time.

Doomed to repeat it wouldn’t be the phrase, though.

Ordained to follow it.

Divine Providence

For His Purposes and His Glory

Btw,It could go south really fast too.
Like with Israel.
DC and its 50, with Elijah calling down fire on them.

And the Whore riding a Beast.
Doesn’t end well for her or the Beast

It could go that way too.

For America and the Church

Let’s hope for Israel’s sake, the serpent transforms back to a proper staff, for leading and ministering.
And America and the New Covenant Church can return to law and order and Justice.

The lawlessness, disorder, and Just Us is Satan’s influence..

So goes the Church, so goes America.
So goes America, so goes the Church.


21 posted on 04/08/2023 7:15:45 AM PDT by delchiante
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