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Those '34 Charges' Against Trump May Not Be What They Seem
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| 4 Apr 2023
| Nick Arama
Posted on 04/04/2023 2:54:37 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Rummyfan
Banana republic. This is where we are.
To: Sacajaweau
What was it Biden just said? We will make sure that we do everything constitutionally that prevents Trump from becoming president again.
Funny he avoided the topic of VOTES! Or who the public elects?
Election fraud all over again and times ten.
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posted on
04/04/2023 3:42:59 PM PDT
by
blackdog
((Z28.310) Rufus T Firefly lives on. )
To: Lockbox
"They made one charge and ran it through a copier 33 times to get to “34 charges”........
DemRATs do something similar with ballots.
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posted on
04/04/2023 3:51:26 PM PDT
by
clearcarbon
(Fraudulent elections have consequences.)
To: blackdog
To: Sacajaweau
The above link is what you should read. And pass it around please.
To: Rummyfan
The indictment has been released. All 34 counts are in violation of——
New York Penal Law
Sec. 175.10
Falsifying Business Records in the First Degree
§ 175.10 Falsifying business records in the first degree. A person is guilty of falsifying business records in the first degree when he commits the crime of falsifying business records in the second degree, and when his intent to defraud includes an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof. Falsifying business records in the first degree is a class E felony.
As the pundits have been saying for days, this looks pretty weak.
To: Rummyfan
Thirty Four overhyped Trumped up charges to make the obvious pun.
Not even accounting entry errrors, just a different spin on what they mean based on the labels.
Not in any galaxy would anyone have dared to do such a thing in the previous 236 years.
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posted on
04/04/2023 3:55:06 PM PDT
by
Regulator
(It's fraud, Jim)
To: alloysteel
“””There are not, in reality, anything like thirty-four charges. There is pretty much, just one charge. They just printed near identical copies of the original, thirty-four times.
If you read one, you have read them all.”””
I read the indictment and you are VERY CORRECT.
To: jeffersondem
I challenge him to name one
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posted on
04/04/2023 4:02:22 PM PDT
by
Nifster
( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
To: Presbyterian Reporter
Read Post 24. Much better than the 34 charges cr**.
To: CFW
And even the lefty judge should know if he doesn’t dismiss them in full, he has lost any respect for himself and outed himself as just a political player.There there isn't anyone on the left whether it's an elected official, a bureaucrat, a judge, media scum, or voter who has any shred of respect, integrity or shame. They care only about getting power and retaining it by any means necessary.
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posted on
04/04/2023 4:11:33 PM PDT
by
Dahoser
(I finally figured out what to call him: Fakephonyfraudident Biden.)
To: jeffersondem
Better question....how many “real” criminals has Bragg bothered to prosecute. We already know the answer. We know how these leftists roll.
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posted on
04/04/2023 4:18:34 PM PDT
by
Danie_2023
(I haven't given up....I'm just regrouping.)
To: Colo9250
Colo9250 wrote:
“
All 34 charges allege that he committed with intent a crime starting in Feb. 2017 and continuing to Dec 2017.
Since Trump was President at that time and Eric was running the Trump companies how does Bragg prove intent?
“
And if the statute of limitations is 5 years, that puts the statute expiration date at Dec 2022.
3 months ago.
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posted on
04/04/2023 4:23:32 PM PDT
by
WildHighlander57
((the more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers.) )
To: Presbyterian Reporter
The case is mega weak. But that’s not what this is about. It’s about slandering Trump’s name and thereby tainting or destroying Trump’s ability to win the GOP nomination.
It’s the equivalent of the left’s constant playbook of slinging tons of crap against the wall of public opinion and hoping that enough of it will stick....since they control the media. And considering how many really stupid and/or uninformed or misinformed people there are in America now....the left is all-in and betting that it will work.
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posted on
04/04/2023 4:26:20 PM PDT
by
Danie_2023
(I haven't given up....I'm just regrouping.)
To: WildHighlander57
“Since Trump was President at that time and Eric was running the Trump companies how does Bragg prove intent?”
Maybe they’re counting on the Cohen testimony against Trump (to save his own @ss)...and that of the “other woman” witness. Then again, maybe they’re just trying to get enough folks to turn against Trump due to their assumption that he “must be guilty”.
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posted on
04/04/2023 4:28:57 PM PDT
by
Danie_2023
(I haven't given up....I'm just regrouping.)
To: Rummyfan
Felony library book late fee when DJT was 8.
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posted on
04/04/2023 4:33:47 PM PDT
by
wgmalabama
(Censored!)
To: Sacajaweau
I also read the Statement of Facts.
To: Colo9250
Some, generally those who recognize a historic context within the moment of its manifest, will say that President Donald Trump carries an anointing – a protection that keeps harm from his purpose.
Others, mainly those who pontificate punditry while exclaiming, “the beginning of the end” and “the walls are closing in”, will likely gnash their horrible teeth and declare the bad man Trump is coated in Teflon. Albeit with a slowly lessening voice, while becoming even smaller than they were.
The indictment of Donald J. Trump IS HERE and the “statement of facts” IS HERE. The situation, as it is represented within the text, is even more laughable than we could have imagined. It is no wonder why the FEC, DOJ and Mueller Teams took a pass on the allegations. The entire legal construct collapses on its face.
In the statement of facts, District Attorney Alvin Bragg says Donald Trump intended to,
...“influence the 2016 presidential election by identifying and purchasing negative information about him to suppress its publication and benefit the Defendant’s electoral prospects. In order to execute the unlawful scheme, the participants violated election laws and made and caused false entries in the business records of various entities in New York“…
However, you will note one key element missing, the statute he supposedly violated.
What is this federal election law Bragg speaks of?
Every single one of the 34 stacked counts are contingent upon some federal violation of election law that the FEC and DOJ refused to pursue. Yet, nothing is cited.
The courts have already determined that campaign funds can be used to avoid potentially embarrassing personal information (John Edwards case). Using personal funds, or campaign funds to avoid potentially embarrassing information, is not a campaign finance violation.
But wait, it gets better…. or worse, if you dislike Trump.
Every single one of the 34 instances when business records were “falsified” to conceal payments to Trump legal counsel, Michael Cohen, happened between February 2017 and October 2017. Guess what President Trump was NOT doing within the Trump organization in 2017, running it!
When Donald J. Trump won the November 2016 presidential election, he subsequently divested from the Trump organization, handing over control to Eric Trump and the company officers and directors.
Throughout 2017, presumably when these false business records (they are not) were created, President Donald J. Trump was not directing any accounting, disbursements or business record keeping within the organization.
(Via CNN) – The text of the 19-page letter reads: “I, Donald J. Trump, hereby resign from each and every office and position I hold” in more than 400 entities listed on the following pages.
The letter is signed by Trump and dated January 19, the day before he was sworn in.
White House press secretary Sean Spicer told reporters Monday that Trump’s two adult sons, Donald Jr. and Eric, are “fully in charge of the company.”
At a press conference January 11, Trump pledged to transfer his business holdings to a trust run by the sons. He refused to sell his ownership stake, a step that many ethics lawyers say is critical to avoid conflicts of interest. (read more)
*****
U.S. Office of Government Ethics
@OfficeGovEthics
@realDonaldTrump - we told your counsel we'd sing your praises if you divested, we meant it.
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posted on
04/04/2023 4:35:49 PM PDT
by
Bratch
To: Dahoser
There there isn't anyone on the left whether it's an elected official, a bureaucrat, a judge, media scum, or voter who has any shred of respect, integrity or shame. Unfortunately that is true. There is no shame or honor in any of them.
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posted on
04/04/2023 4:38:07 PM PDT
by
Rummyfan
(In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized of man.)
To: Rummyfan
FYI: There is also a
"Statement of Facts" document that adds significant detail in support of the Indictment document.
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