Posted on 03/24/2023 7:58:59 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
A new poll released on Thursday has revealed that the majority of Republican Americans do not support providing weapons and financial support to Ukraine, compared to their Democrat or independent counterparts.
The Axios/Ipsos Two Americas poll found that overall, 59 percent of Americans, or three in five, support providing weapons and financial support to the Eastern European nation. Most Democrats and independents agreed as well, at 79 and 60. percent, respectively.
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42 percent of Republicans said that the US could provide such support to Ukraine.
The poll also focused on the 20th anniversary of the United States invading Iraq, which found that Republicans were more likely to say that the US was right to invade Iraq than their Democrat or independent counterparts.
58 percent of Republicans said that the US was right, compared to 26 percent of Democrats and 32 percent of independents.
31 percent of Americans overall said that the Iraq war has made the US less safe, while the majority of Americans, 54 percent, said that the US’s focus on national defense and homeland security in the last 20 years has made the country safer.
73 percent of Americans said the US should continue to "try to be the global leader."
The Axios/Ipsos Two Americas poll was conducted between March 10 and 13 of 1,018 American adults. The poll has a margin of error of 3.3 percent.
What a seachange. The Rats want war and we don’t.
Robert Dole: “4 democrat started wars in the 20th century”. Cost him.
I would like to see a cost/benefit breakdown of this war for the US.
The Axios/Ipsos Two Americas poll found that overall, 59 percent of Americans, or three in five, support providing weapons and financial support to the Eastern European nation.
We need to cut off funding to NGOs too.
And some, if not most, of the federal bureaucracy.
More economic ruin should hasten the process.
58% of Republicans still think the Iraq war was a good idea?
“I would like to see a cost/benefit breakdown of this war for the US.”
We’re pretty sure the cost is $100 billion plus and the benefit is that we are entangled in an apparent proxy war with another nuclear superpower.
That benefit is only for people who go around saying things like: “Never let a crisis go to waste.”
Funny how the same people that caused the crisis are those who will benefit from it.
OK - so you stop funding the war in Ukraine. THEN WHAT?
Do you have a peace deal to promote?
What do you say to the US allies we have stupidly pulled into this war as well?
Do you expect our pals in the neo-Nazi Azov / Zelensky regime to now collapse?
How does the USA avoid total embarrassment?
How do you deal with insane neocons like Nuland, Blinken who still control our institutions and make policy?
America is run immoral grasping neocons, the MIC or spineless RINOs. None of whom can see beyond the end of their nose.
DeSantis’s sell out to deep state lobbyists could not have been timed any worse.
After 20 years in Afghanistan and it all ended the cost/benefit analysis with same cast of characters making the decisions would be fairly easy to calculate.
All cost and no benefits
"Majority of GOP opposed to continued funding for war in Ukraine: poll"
FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument
All that it takes for one so-called “MAGA Republican” to effectively exercise majority power to stop unaccountable US funding for Ukraine is to publicly point out Justice Joseph Story's clarification that foreign aid is constitutionally indefensible.
“If the tax be not proposed for the common defence, or general welfare, but for other objects, wholly extraneous, (as for instance, for propagating Mahometanism among the Turks, or giving aids and subsidies to a foreign nation, to build palaces for its kings, or erect monuments to its heroes,) it would be wholly indefensible upon constitutional principles [emphases added].” — Justice Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution 2 (1833).
Patriots, the bottom line is this imo. What is your threshold of “pain” for peacefully stopping unconstitutionally big state and federal governments controlled by bully, constitutionally undefined political parties, from oppressing the people under their boots?
The inevitable remedy for ongoing, post-17A ratification, corrupt political party treason (imo)...
All MAGA patriots need to wake up their RINO federal and state lawmakers by making the following clear to them.
If they don’t publicly support either a resolution, or a Constitutional Convention, to effectively "secede" ALL the states from the unconstitutionally big federal government by amending the Constitution to repeal the 16th (direct taxes) and 17th (popular voting for federal senators) Amendments (16&17A), doing so before the primary elections in 2024, that YOU will primary them.
If the proposed amendment was limited strictly to repealing 16&17A, relatively little or ideally no discussion would be needed before ratification of the amendment imo.
With 16&17A out of the way, my hope is that Trump 47 becomes the FIRST president of a truly constitutionally limited power federal government.
In the meanwhile, I'm not holding my breath for significant MAGA legislation to appear in the first 100 days of new term for what may still prove to be another RINO-controlled House.
In other words, primarying RINOs in 2022 was just for practice. Trump will hopefully do another round of primarying for 2024 elections.
At the very least..they should have taken issue and said that we would look at the Chinese cease fire proposal and consider the whole of the proposal.
The war whores in DC rejected it out of hand.
That’s going to make it difficult to get a Republican candidate through the primary who will have broad enough appeal to win the general election.
Our own founders had a lot of help from one of the leading powers of the day, France. We should study how that all worked out (while avoiding a French revolution), since the French also had a huge gap between “haves” and “have nots,” while at the same time that the “haves” made an investment in the U.S. that has paid multiple dividends over the centuries. Ukraine is one of the Eastern bloc nations that Russia wants back in order to play king of the hill, while mismanaging them and squashing their prospects.
If we didn't give up our Freedom to the TSA, and homeland security, and provide them with a permanent Total Information Awareness surveillance state, then the terrorist woulda won.
Does this mean maybe Ukraine won’t be partisan in the future? I don’t trust 98% of them.
The longer the war goes on, the less support it will have. A deep recession will hasten its unpopularity. Borrowing hundreds of billions of dollars to prolong a proxy war is unsustainable.
The Medicare Trust fund is exhausted in 2028. When the choice is between guns or butter, butter always wins.
It’s all about who is in love with the Nazis.
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