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Will Goliath Blink? Charles Murray’s Continuing Assault on the Orthodoxy
Ideas Sleep Furiously (blog) ^ | February 21, 2023 | Bo Winegard

Posted on 03/10/2023 7:48:16 AM PST by karpov

The proverbial Martian would find contemporary discourse about race in the West peculiar, even paradoxical. On the one hand, many modern intellectuals insist that race is a pernicious reification of superficial human differences that has been decisively refuted by modern science. On the other hand, many of these same intellectuals obsess about racial disparities and injustices and actively promote policies that treat people of different races differently (e.g., affirmative action). Thus, mainstream discourse simultaneously contends that belief in race is an anachronistic superstition and that racial equality is an ethical imperative that can only be achieved through racially conscious policy and analysis. To circle this apparent square, sophisticated defenders of the mainstream argue that although race does not actually exist, it is real because the masses believe that it is real and therefore treat people of different (illusory) races differently. And this differential treatment causes disparate outcomes. The category “race,” like the category “witch,” is therefore analytically indispensable so long as people’s belief in it influences their behavior toward others. Following Charles Murray, I will refer to this position as the orthodoxy.

Against this, there is an alternative position, race realism, which argues that people use the concept of race for the same reason that they use the concept of species or sex, namely, because it picks out a salient and meaningful biological category. More adventurous versions of race realism even contend that many of the racial disparities that the orthodoxy blames on widespread racism are actually caused by intrinsic or at least recalcitrant average differences in psychological traits and tendencies between races. (I’ll call this position hereditarianism.) Needless to say, hereditarianism is not popular among educated elites in the West.

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TOPICS: Books/Literature; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: bellcurve; charlesmurray; iq; race

1 posted on 03/10/2023 7:48:16 AM PST by karpov
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To: karpov
There is a movement behind the "race" movement in America. It is tucked in nicely hoping you won't notice it.

That hidden movement is pushing racial disparity because it is doing exactly what it was designed to do...create division that will lead to a systemic breakdown.

So who would want to cause a systemic breakdown. All those who wish to overthrow the existing system--China, Marxists, elitists, Russians, the WEF, the Democrats in general, trouble-makers, thugs, Pope Francis, AOC, the Squad, Justin Trudeau, Pee-Wee Herman.

Well, perhaps not Pee-Wee Herman.

2 posted on 03/10/2023 7:59:55 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: karpov

Thanks for posting. I have not yet read the entire article. So what follows is a bit of a knee-jerk reaction.

I agree with the post that there are real biological differences between the races. How significant are the differences? Are observable differences innate?

“More adventurous versions of race realism even contend that many of the racial disparities that the orthodoxy blames on widespread racism are actually caused by intrinsic or at least recalcitrant average differences in psychological traits and tendencies between races. (I’ll call this position hereditarianism.)”

My position is that there have often been significant differences that were not innate. At one time, American Italians, Jews and others had low measured IQs. That has changed. At one time Blacks were considered to have little aptitude at sports.

There are problems in the Black community. Democrats blame “systemic racism.” It is largely undefined. However, Barack Obama contributed to this discussion.

According to Obama, if a Black man comes into an office and a White woman secures her purse, that is systemic racism. Presumably that act, and others like it, are the cause of family break-up, illiteracy, poor math skills, crime and other problems among Blacks. With that kind of definition floating around, it would be no wonder that sensible people would reject the idea of systemic racism.

I think systemic racism is real and can be found in numerous policies of the Democratic party. Family break-up is among the greatest problem for Blacks. Cause? Democrat crafted government welfare. Examine their policies and ask how these affect the races. Nine times out of ten, they hurt Blacks more so than Whites.

I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop. After decades of sabotaging Blacks, Democrats will someday say: “We have helped Blacks so much and they have failed so badly. The race must be deficient.” The left can turn on a dime.


3 posted on 03/10/2023 8:10:29 AM PST by ChessExpert (Informed consent: "We have a new, experimental vaccine you might want to consider.")
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To: RoosterRedux

Long video but it will show you what their end goal is. It’s about King Charles and the WEF, how they are setting up world control, the commies will no doubt be the other governing body for the non commonwealth.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PLClp_wrn4kKT2u8TnzDmAsc0nwRd2hXaB&v=M4YEq2Upv2U&feature=youtu.be


4 posted on 03/10/2023 8:11:42 AM PST by dragonblustar (WEF = World Economic Fascists. )
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To: RoosterRedux
That hidden movement is pushing racial disparity because it is doing exactly what it was designed to do...create division that will lead to a systemic breakdown.

This has been going on for decades if not most of the last century, and it's not just the race movement. It's pretty much every movement that has ever come along. Remember the anti-nuke movement that disappeared when their communist sponsor did for example?

What has made the movements so much more destructive today is that social media is a very effective tool for movements. It does not help that our own governent is complicit and that media has become a branch of government following their "requests".

5 posted on 03/10/2023 8:17:51 AM PST by seowulf (Civilization begins with order, grows with liberty, and dies with chaos...Will Durant)
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To: karpov
Excellent review, outstanding!

I have read "Human Diversity". This review nails it.

Now I shall have to read "Facing Reality".

6 posted on 03/10/2023 8:19:57 AM PST by marktwain
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To: karpov
Charles Murray's Human Diversity and Facing Reality, the two books discussed here, are both excellent. I recommend them to all.

The left is locked into shoot the messenger mode, and the left dominates the media, academia and government. Life is becoming dangerous for the truth tellers. But the left is trying to perpetuate a lie and to use the lie to completely remake society. This cannot succeed in the end. The commissars know perfectly well that they are institutionalizing a lie. Sooner or later, the lie will necessarily be exposed.

The question at the moment is how to shift the Overton window enough to at least open the discussion. My current tactic when the subject comes up is to immediately go on the offensive -- not to hammer home Charles Murray's argument, but simply to reframe the debate. I try to pose the question initially in terms of the top half of the table:

"Ok, let's talk about white supremacy and systemic racism. Look at tested IQ. Look at academic achievement as measured by objective testing. Look at faculty in elite institutions -- especially in STEM fields, where grokking the math can't be faked, so politically correct cheating is harder. Look at selection of academic and career fields. Look at success over time in intellectually challenging career fields and average incomes. And then compare Ashkenazi Jews, East Asians, people of Indian descent, and whites, traditionally defined as non-Jewish people of European origin. How do the current theories of white supremacy and systemic racism explain the results?"

The short answer, of course, is that they don't explain the results. Not at all. Not across the top half of the IQ table. The tactic here, obviously, is to take the black-white obsession off the table. We can talk about that later. But we need first to acknowledge that "white supremacy" and "systemic racism" fail utterly to explain group performance across the relevant metrics in America today. The meritocracy is NOT producing white supremacy.

Liberals have absolutely no answer to this. And their default option, which is to accuse white people of racism, isn't relevant when the question is framed as a competition in which white people are in fact in last place (again, across the top half of the table). Explain that first, and then we can work blacks, hispanics and people of mixed race into the discussion.

The question then arises as to how these group differences developed in a relatively short period of time. There is a very simple answer, and it doesn't involve founders effects or a God envisioned as a bearded white guy in the clouds who created a smart gene and distributed it on the basis of melanin. It's simpler than that. Small groups of our homo erectus ancestors finally became adept enough at long distance travel to make across the geographical barriers and get out of Africa. They were no more or less intelligent than the ones who stayed behind. But they encountered dramatically different environmental pressures, starting with winter. They encountered new and very challenging problems related to the food supply. Those who couldn't adapt, and adapt very quickly, died. It is not difficult to hypothesize traits relevant to this kind of adaptability that might correlate with what we would now consider intelligence.

How do you raise the average IQ of a group in a very short period of time. Simple. Kill off the bottom quarter, the bottom half, or the bottom three quarters of the distribution. That will raise the average IQ far more quickly than waiting for the bearded white guy in the sky to create a smart gene.

7 posted on 03/10/2023 8:42:44 AM PST by sphinx
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To: seowulf
Amen to every point you made. The Marxists are the most prominent and are leading the way. They are killing us with a thousand no-so-little paper cuts.

And given that our country is basically rotting meat right now, we can bet the Chinese are drooling over the opportunity to attack before the next election.

That said, given that the Chinese own so many of our politicians, it won't take much of an attack to topple our government. Joe, Fauci, the DOJ, much of the Pentagon, and the entire Democrat Party would love to declare a martial law lockdown and disband Congress.

8 posted on 03/10/2023 8:46:20 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: sphinx

“Liberals have absolutely no answer to this.”

Of course not. They are not about truth, but about social or mental constructs and the will to twist and shape malleable human nature to their own ends.

And it’s not about Goliath blinking but going down with a rock lodged in his eye or forehead. Unfortunately life has become truly comedic and the sad tragedy of this dark comedy is people must dies as a result of their bad choices. Talk is over.


9 posted on 03/10/2023 9:14:13 AM PST by BEJ
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To: sphinx

“How do you raise the average IQ of a group”

In the case of Black Americans, I suggest the following.

Allow school choice. This would benefit all races. However, it is Blacks who are disproportionately locked into low-quality inner-city government schools. Allow motivated parents and children to make another choice. A few would succeed at first: first a trickle, later a flood.

Stop family-busting government welfare. This entices the poor, disproportionately Black. Black children will see working dads and responsible moms.

Stop illegal immigration. The people coming in are at the bottom of the wage scale, pushing employment and wages down further. Low-income Americans suffer. Once again, they are disproportionately Black.

Eliminate “minimum wage” laws. These laws outlaw low-paying jobs. Black teenagers are the hardest hit.

Stop releasing Black thugs. Once released, they return to Black neighborhoods and terrorize honest Blacks citizens.

Stop inciting riots. These kill off shopping and job opportunities for decades.

Stop affirmative action. It places Black students and employees into positions where they are destined to fail.

Stop hammering the economy due to bogus claims by environmental extremists. CO2 is not a pollutant. Send a gallon of gas to under $2 and lift all boats, lifting many out of poverty.


10 posted on 03/10/2023 12:25:14 PM PST by ChessExpert (Informed consent: "We have a new, experimental vaccine you might want to consider.")
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