Ukraine. What's it all about? How did we get where we are?

Flopping Aces ^ | 03-02-23 | DrJohn

[Kazan]

What "original" coup? There was none.

And, yes, the people of Donetsk and Lugansk EVERY right not to want to live under an illegal installed government that was hostile to their ethnicty.

Fomenting a coup in order to use Ukraine to pester and threaten Russia is absolutely outrageous and an unacceptable act of provocation. We sure hell as wouldn't tolerate Russia or China doing in Mexico what we did in Ukraine.

There was absolutely no national interest in fomenting the coup in 2014. It was done for the benefit of our political elite and their financial backers. It benefited only corrupt bastards like Biden and George Soros. Screw you for defending it.

[BobL]

My understanding of the war in Ukraine, at least as told to me by the Operatives here, is that Putin woke up a year ago, was in a bad mood, so he decided to INVADE an otherwise peaceful country that was simply minding its own business.

Might I have been misled by fellow FReepers?

Naa, no way!

[BobL]

“Is this the most embarrassing thing to have ever happened to Russia?”

Agree, actually, since most of the people around Putin sound as though they would have LEVELED Ukraine, and then discussed dismembering what was left of it. Putin was a wimp for taking so long and going in so weak, at least based on what others there imply.

[Jan_Sobieski]

the original coup by the Russians to seize control of Ukraine was stopped by a coup by - us?

Falsehoods like this are why conservatives don’t trust anyone anymore. So the Russians were taking over the country through a mind operation to get Ukrainians to vote for pro-Russian candidates? Our one consolation is that most of you folks got the shots.

[caver]

I have a very simple outlook on anything that Biden does. If Biden is for it, then I’m against it. And the reverse holds true also. I will be on the opposite side of anything that Biden does.

[Chainmail]

You two must have adjoining desks in the American directorate of the FSB.

Same bilious tripe, same weirdly Russian worldview - and the same blindness to the obvious aggression and immoral actions to seize a sovereign country.

The only “conservatism” you both subscribe to is whatever your soul mate Vladimir Putin believes in.

P.S.: Get your shots.. after all China’s your buddy now.

[Salvavida]

Starman, how dare you post this attempt at punching through the neo-con orthodoxy of Freepers that continue to pray and support Ukraine. Forget what I said; there are none so blind as those who will not see.

All of this information was at our fingertips the whole time.

[Widget Jr]

When grasping at straws to rationalize a untenable position, people can be selectively myopic. Nuland in the "[bleep] the EU" phone call was talking about stabilizing Ukraine, not overthrowing it.

The Nuland-CIA-conspiracy fails to explain how Poroshenko looted Ukraine and fled to Russia was part of this conspiracy, or how his corruption was a reason for deposing him.

So called conspiracy theorists ignore it when reality gets in the way of their fantasies.

[Jan_Sobieski]

I call you out on your blatant lies, and you call me FSB. Enjoy your little clown world with men who say they’re women, Zelensky is Churchill, and only vaccines save

[Chainmail]

Uh huh.

Friggin' Russkie - I call you out for your support of the bestial and completely uncivilized national behavior: invading countries, killing civilians, wrecking cities, shooting down defenseless airliners, and stealing land and resources.

Абсолютно некультурный!