Well, there it is – NATO General Secretary Says Ukraine Will Definitely Become a NATO Member Once Conflict with Russia Concludes

The Conservative Treehouse ^ | February 28, 2023 | Sundance

[ansel12]

You aren’t very bright or you are drunk or something, perhaps just childish.

[nickfrost1]

You aren’t very bright or you are drunk or something, perhaps just childish.==

But you full of hypocrisy.

[ansel12]

You really don’t know the difference between civilian convicted criminals in a civilian prison and military POWs captured in war being held under the rules of the Geneva convention?

You never served in the military or read anything about war and the military and POWs?

[nickfrost1]

You really don’t know the difference between civilian convicted criminals in a civilian prison and military POWs captured in war being held under the rules of the Geneva convention?==

You talked about slave workers. How different civilian prisoners compelled to work to repair and amend their action with POWs compelled to work to repair and amend their action? I don’t see a difference.

Both things are a justified things for prisoners. The prisoners must correct consequences of their actions.

[ansel12]

First, you don’t seem to understand that civilian convicts don’t work to pay back their victims or the government but work to buy extra things for themselves while in prison and to keep them busy rather than sitting in bed all day.

Second you don’t seem to know that prisoners of war are governed by international law and the Geneva convention.

How old are you? How is it that you are a Russian living in Russia, have never heard of the Geneva Convention or any of this, yet you found and signed up here at freerepublic solely to promote Russian war internet propaganda?

[nickfrost1]

Second you don’t seem to know that prisoners of war are governed by international law and the Geneva convention.==

Russia didn’t sign it. USSR did.

to promote Russian war internet propaganda?==

Yeah I know things the limited minds don’t understand or don’t agree with are an internet propaganda))). Didn’t you here about a critical thinking?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_thinking

[nickfrost1]

you don’t seem to understand that civilian convicts don’t work to pay back their victims or the government ==

In Russia they do. Think about it. It may stop them to continue a life of crimes if they pay their victims once.

Violations should NOT pay — it is a principle.

So prisoners are paying to their victims and to the government but of course some portion of their earnings go for their own needs. They may accumulate this money so when released they have some money in their pockets.

If they don’t like it then they shouldn’t violate laws.

[Repealthe17thAmendment]

Looks like there’s an incentive to take over the entire country now. Annex it.

[ansel12]

These new posts reveal either you were playing dumb, or more likely you have been internet searching and learning new things and have now discovered the Geneva Convention.

Russia is a signatory of the Geneva Convention and in 2019 revoked its recognition of one of the protocols, but remains a signatory to the rest of the agreements.

So no, you cannot keep POWs and make them slaves.

As far as your prison system for civilians, your nation is rather famous for that.

[nickfrost1]

Conventions I–IV and Protocols I and II ratified as the Soviet Union.==

SOVIET UNION not Russia! SO You wrong again. BTW Ukraine also did NOT sign this convention for same matter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_parties_to_the_Geneva_Conventions

So no, you cannot keep POWs and make them slaves.==

Again USSR kept Hitlerite POWs and made them working 10 years after end of war to restore everything they broke. SO here is a good example and an justice.

As far as your prison system for civilians, your nation is rather famous for that.===

Indeed the prison system is a government corporation which makes profit and the budget hasn’t to spend a penny on it. Everyone must work. There is a many incentives for good work. Better food, live conditions, med support, skills training and so on. But the inmate has to pay a bills and rent and buy groceries and so on.

So when they did their shorten time they come out absolutely ready to be a productive member of society. Think about it.

They have skills and money for starting new life and so on. They just go to work using skills acquired in a prison and successfully.

Also working inmates have to pay for those who refuse to work. Imagine how they treat them inside prison. Those who refuse working even kept in different barracks for their protection.

P.S. Even Brittney Griner had learned new working skills in a prison. She became a sewing machine operator. And she produced the uniform for Russian troopers.

[ansel12]

Keep researching and you will eventually get to the truth about why Russia is a signatory to the Geneva convention, no wonder you are so ignorant of so much.

What is more troubling is your belief that soldiers in war should be kept as slaves after the war.

[nickfrost1]

Keep researching and you will eventually get to the truth about why Russia is a signatory to the Geneva convention,==

You just stick here out of stubbornness. I gave a wiki link of the signatories of convention which clear says SOVIET UNION was a signatory which I told you at first place. But neither Russia or Ukraine are not.

What is more troubling is your belief that soldiers in war should be kept as slaves after the war.==

Not as slaves but as the criminals who destroyed the properties of people and who must repay their doings. After repayments they free to go.

Say we form a team from ukie POWs for rebuilding a destroyed apartment building in Novorossiya. And we tell them: you a team will be free to go home AFTER you finish this building. SO maybe 1 year or maybe more but they WILL go home. And our people will get the new building. So not slaves but workers with incentives.

[wildcard_redneck]

I think that Russia has made up its mind to take all the Russian enclaves in the entire coast of the Black Sea. I do not believe that this desire is limited just Putin. I believe that the entire leadership of Russia thinks this way.

[wildcard_redneck]

The Ukrainian economy is gone. They do not manufacture much anymore since Russia siezed the industrial heartland which also happens to be ethnic Russian. The Ukraine can only ship grain because the Russians allow it not because they broke any blockade. The entire government is funded by America because the Ukraine is not getting any real tax revenues.

[ansel12]

Not entirely by America, but your post supports what I said in post 72.

[mass55th]

"The entire government is funded by America because the Ukraine is not getting any real tax revenues."

Pretty soon America won't be getting any real tax revenues either. Who's going to bail us out?

[Cronos]

Flt-bird Well, now Russia is definitely going to go for the maximal solution. Forget any half measures or moderate negotiated settlement. Russia will likely annex the entire Black Sea coast including Odessa and leave central and western Ukraine a broken landlocked shell of a country.

They tried that last year and failed

Russia has no capacity to retake Kherson, leave alone Odessa

Russia has no capacity to take left bank Ukraine

That's just the facts on the ground - they might be able to hold on to what they currently hold, but push further more? Not very likely

[cornfedcowboy]

I am wondering if this is a negotiating tool. Ukraine will not be in NATO.

[FLT-bird]

They tried that last year and failed Russia has no capacity to retake Kherson, leave alone Odessa Russia has no capacity to take left bank Ukraine That's just the facts on the ground - they might be able to hold on to what they currently hold, but push further more? Not very likely

We'll see how things turn out. I am very skeptical of the narrative the Western Media is peddling.