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Well, there it is – NATO General Secretary Says Ukraine Will Definitely Become a NATO Member Once Conflict with Russia Concludes
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | February 28, 2023 | Sundance

Posted on 02/28/2023 6:54:07 PM PST by wildcard_redneck

After the western alliance previously swore that NATO would not put any member NATO state on the doorstep of Russia, a promise that was weak and viewed by many as false – ultimately influencing the decision by Russia, NATO General Secretary Jens Stoltenberg said today that Ukraine will be joining NATO as soon as the conflict is concluded.

Now, given that statement, why would Russia even fathom entering any type of peaceful resolution to the conflict. In essence, Stoltenberg has just turned the conflict in Ukraine into a zero-sum issue for Russia. The only way Russia can keep NATO away from its border is to win violently against Ukraine.

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To: BobL
Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation web page: Agreement on measures to ensure the security of The Russian Federation and member States of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (.ru).

One explanation of why it was unworkable, Russia's draft agreements with NATO and the United States: Intended for rejection?

Russia's repeated efforts to suborn and violate of Ukraine's sovereignty, its invasion of Ukraine, the words and actions of Putin and Russian government officials since, have made clear what the Russian government wants.

61 posted on 03/01/2023 3:34:23 AM PST by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni 🇺🇦 - No CCCP 2.0)
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To: Widget Jr

Try again, nothing on ‘restarting the CCCP’ as you claimed.


62 posted on 03/01/2023 4:06:05 AM PST by BobL
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To: BobL
Try again, using reading comprehension and read the last sentence of my answer to your question, instead of pretending to ignoring it.
63 posted on 03/01/2023 4:31:49 AM PST by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni 🇺🇦 - No CCCP 2.0)
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To: wildcard_redneck

Well, this is WWII after all.


64 posted on 03/01/2023 4:32:32 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Widget Jr

“and read the last sentence of my answer to your question”

I didn’t realize that you’re Putin. Incredible!


65 posted on 03/01/2023 4:35:19 AM PST by BobL
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To: wildcard_redneck

Well, now Russia is definitely going to go for the maximal solution. Forget any half measures or moderate negotiated settlement. Russia will likely annex the entire Black Sea coast including Odessa and leave central and western Ukraine a broken landlocked shell of a country.

Great job Neocons.


66 posted on 03/01/2023 4:56:38 AM PST by FLT-bird
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To: FLT-bird
"Well, now Russia is definitely going to go for the maximal solution. Forget any half measures or moderate negotiated settlement. Russia will likely annex the entire Black Sea coast including Odessa and leave central and western Ukraine a broken landlocked shell of a country.

Great job Neocons."

Neocons have been losing wars for 60 years for fun and profit and they will lose this one too. These bloodthirsty morons will not stop themselves before they kill us all so we must stop them.

67 posted on 03/01/2023 5:20:09 AM PST by wildcard_redneck (Biden will mess up the Ukraine worse than Afghanistan.)
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To: wildcard_redneck

This will end VERY well for the globalists and connected politicians. There are fortunes to be made and who cares how many corpses it takes?


68 posted on 03/01/2023 5:42:34 AM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: mass55th

There are no dues, no membership fee and Ukraine strikes you as the kind of people who won’t be budgeting for national defense in the future?


69 posted on 03/01/2023 5:44:50 AM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: nickfrost1

“”We will rebuild our cities and ukie POWs like germans before them will be the working hands on it.””

So, as you did in our father’s time you intend to keep slaves after the war is over.


70 posted on 03/01/2023 5:51:25 AM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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"...and Ukraine strikes you as the kind of people who won’t be budgeting for national defense in the future?

Uh yeah, since they can't even pay for the current conflict, pay their bills, salaries, or pensions without financial, and military welfare payments from the U.S.

71 posted on 03/01/2023 11:55:32 AM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: mass55th

Use some common sense.

They can’t pay the full cost of this war because the 2nd most powerful military in the world is invading them and has wiped out their economy, infrastructure, cities, factories, agriculture, population, and everything else the Russian military can take out or hinder, they are in total disarray, and what countries have been able to fully pay their own way without loans and support when being invaded, any?

As far as national defense, do you really see that not being a focus in the future of Ukraine?


72 posted on 03/01/2023 12:18:01 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12
"They can’t pay the full cost of this war because the 2nd most powerful military..."

WAHHHHHHH!!

73 posted on 03/01/2023 1:29:27 PM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: mass55th

I don’t know what that means, people can’t read your mind.


74 posted on 03/01/2023 2:11:46 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

So, as you did in our father’s time you intend to keep slaves after the war is over.==

We will exchange them 1 for 1 first. Those ukies who are left will work to rebuild everything broken by this war. When they finished they can go. I think it is just.


75 posted on 03/01/2023 3:00:39 PM PST by nickfrost1
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To: nickfrost1

So Russia still practices slavery or is it just your personal position on slavery?


76 posted on 03/01/2023 3:16:05 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

So Russia still practices slavery or is it just your personal position on slavery?==

I don’t see slavery in it. If someone who broke things will fix them or possible pay for it isn’t it just?


77 posted on 03/01/2023 7:21:01 PM PST by nickfrost1
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To: ansel12

Also US prison system has a work programs which must compensate the damage those inmates did. Are they slaves by you?

https://www.bop.gov/inmates/custody_and_care/work_programs.jsp


78 posted on 03/01/2023 7:24:04 PM PST by nickfrost1
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To: nickfrost1

You can’t keep the POWs you capture and make them slaves after a war is over, they have to be released immediately.


79 posted on 03/01/2023 7:45:11 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

You can’t keep the POWs you capture and make them slaves after a war is over, they have to be released immediately.==

Same like US prison system keeps those inmates as slave workers, no? So release them immediately and show Russia a good example))).


80 posted on 03/01/2023 8:29:38 PM PST by nickfrost1
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