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Attack On Europe: Documenting Russian Equipment Losses During The 2022 Russian Invasion Of Ukraine
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Posted on 01/26/2023 7:04:14 AM PST by SpeedyInTexas

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To: FtrPilot; PIF; blitz128; BeauBo

France: We must study. A studious people.

“France does not exclude the possibility of transferring Mirage fighter jets to Ukraine, - the head of the French Committee for National Defense and the Armed Forces, Thomas Gassilloud said.

“We must study requests on a case by case basis & leave all the doors open”, he added.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/01/26/france-could-meet-ukraines-demand-fighter-jets/


101 posted on 01/26/2023 5:05:18 PM PST by SpeedyInTexas (RuZZia is the enemy of all mankind)
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There are many Mirage fighter variants. Probably looking at Mirage 2000 for Ukraine.

Mirage 2000 is a single seat, single engine, gen 4, multi-role fighter.

Once we get verification if this is going to happen, I will gladly research and report back.

102 posted on 01/26/2023 5:21:21 PM PST by FtrPilot
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To: FtrPilot

Will be interesting to see if the Russians are willing to sacrifice more of their aircraft for short term possible gains
Their pulling out the bmp-1s maybe the yaks or the il-2s


103 posted on 01/26/2023 6:46:02 PM PST by blitz128
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To: PIF

Morocco is sending 174 T72EA Tanks”

Honor and Glory to Morocco!

That is an awesome contribution!

Russia better leave the Ukraine, while they still have an Army to withdraw.


104 posted on 01/26/2023 6:51:52 PM PST by BeauBo
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To: BeauBo

That is good news now if we can send enough bradleys to fill out the brigade you have a fighting unit


105 posted on 01/26/2023 8:22:10 PM PST by blitz128
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To: BeauBo
Maybe we will see a tank battle.
If Russia can manage it.
106 posted on 01/26/2023 10:13:17 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: BeauBo
Blitzkrieg Bop (2016 Remaster)
107 posted on 01/26/2023 10:15:39 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: FtrPilot; blitz128; SpeedyInTexas; marcusmaximus; BeauBo

Over the next couple of days/weeks, blitz128 and I are going to discuss various aspects of CAS. If anyone else is interested and would like to be pinged, just let us know.


The missing piece here is Combined Arms Maneuver Warfare. Today’s update will include a small bit on that subject with M1A1s. Anyone with knowledge of these subjects can add on.


108 posted on 01/27/2023 4:17:42 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

Interesting take on why Germany withheld Leopards:

But the underlying issue is that the Germans fear that if the various European states that have bought Leopard 2 tanks from Germany supply them to Ukraine, they may well opt to replace their own inventories with US equipment instead.

Why Germany really shied from sending Leopards to Ukraine
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4126445/posts


109 posted on 01/27/2023 5:43:59 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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The missing piece here is Combined Arms Maneuver Warfare.

A discussion on Combined Arms Maneuver is certainly worth having. Especially as it occurs.

If it's combined arms with air support, then even better.

PIF...thanks for the recommendation.

110 posted on 01/27/2023 12:16:01 PM PST by FtrPilot
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If you have any thoughts on how these maneuvers will help Ukraine take Melitopol as part of your analysis and discussion, that would be great. The territory of Zaporizhzhia seems to be not at all conducive to a Ukrainian mass offensive.


111 posted on 01/27/2023 12:27:29 PM PST by marcusmaximus
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If you have any thoughts on how these maneuvers will help Ukraine take Melitopol as part of your analysis and discussion, that would be great.

Excellent suggestion.

As this unfolds, I expect there will be a lot to discuss.

For example what if:

UKR Fighters get tasked with higher priority missions and can't support CAS.

Helos have too high shoot down rate.

Artillery is restricted by counter battery.

Logistics failures occur.

.

IMHO, Melitopol is a key. It will take aggressive combined arms to get there.

112 posted on 01/27/2023 1:37:01 PM PST by FtrPilot
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I am convinced that all of this is about Crimea. A relatively simple solution is long range munitions that take out bridge and rail lines leaving Crimea untenable. Add to that every inch of Crimea including logistics, naval base and airfields will be susceptible.

An offensive to melitapol will seal the deal

Question are missiles coming hopefully and quietly. And will they have time to organize the new equipment for the offensive

Russians are desperate and wouldn’t be surprised to see the the waves of Stalingrad replayed, small scale versions already happening


113 posted on 01/27/2023 2:28:26 PM PST by blitz128
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I am convinced that all of this is about Crimea.

Agree, but I'll rephrase...It's about kicking Ru completely out of Ukraine, including Crimea. Crimea is in play.

A relatively simple solution is long range munitions

Correct, however I don't know if I agree on the word "simple". Some long range munitions will be required.

I'm a fan of the GLSDB. Inexpensive, very accurate, deadly.

An offensive to melitapol will seal the deal

I'll go one step further...I believe that's the plan.

I believe planners are determining how many tanks, IFVs, fuel trucks, ammo trucks, personnel, etc. will be necessary and UKR leadership is getting commitments for delivery of all necessary equipment, training, and logistics to support.

Are missiles coming hopefully and quietly? And will they have time to organize the new equipment for the offensive?

I believe there is a "master schedule". I hope that it is all done in secret and the launch is a total surprise.

Russians are desperate...

Agree!

BeauBo...anything else to add?

114 posted on 01/27/2023 2:58:17 PM PST by FtrPilot
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https://twitter.com/clashreport/status/1619369764580921344

“Ukrainian Army technicians speaking to Financial Times talked about the ‘sharp complication of training’ and compared the transfer from Soviet tanks to modern ones with the difference between ‘a 1950s car and a sports car.’”


115 posted on 01/28/2023 3:25:51 PM PST by linMcHlp
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To: linMcHlp

and?


116 posted on 01/28/2023 3:52:05 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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Old thread - current one is today’s date and there will be a new one with tomorrow’s date - look at comment 1 for current date of thread.


117 posted on 01/28/2023 3:54:10 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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