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Maybe I am ignorant but how come the Ukraine never built factories to build Soviet caliber artillery shells? When the Nazis invaded the Soviet Union, the Soviets were able to evacuate thousands of factories to the Urals and beyond. Those factories were up and running during the time frame since the Russo-Ukraine war broke out.
1 posted on 01/18/2023 7:29:02 AM PST by C19fan
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At some point, don’t know when, this will not pass the smell test.

Something else is going on.


2 posted on 01/18/2023 7:30:38 AM PST by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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The same can be said of the NATO standard 155 MM shell.


4 posted on 01/18/2023 7:32:17 AM PST by C19fan
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Ukraine is now Trench Warfare and Artillery duels.

Next, we are going to send some Dough Boys ‘Over There’ to fight the War to End All Wars and Make the World Safe for Democracy.

It’s a stalemate with no end in sight. Make Peace!


5 posted on 01/18/2023 7:34:56 AM PST by MMusson
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Using our old military junk to demilitarize a warmongering Russia is an excellent investment.


7 posted on 01/18/2023 7:38:07 AM PST by lodi90
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Actually one of the great ironies of this war is that most Russian ammunition, aircraft, missiles, tanks, rifles, and etc. were all made in Ukrainian factories that have now been destroyed.

I think the Russians had assumed that they could invade Ukraine and seize control of all of these factories without having to damage them. Now that those factories have been destroyed the Russians are faced with having to build a complete military production infrastructure in their own country.


13 posted on 01/18/2023 7:50:33 AM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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Our neocons are anti American criminals and traitors.

As is anyone who supports them in their Ukrainian crusade.


17 posted on 01/18/2023 8:05:22 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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In earlier years defense munitions production for replacing used stores kept pace with use, but that has fallen by the wayside in recent years, RDUCING the munitions budgets to pretend it is holding the line on the total defense budget.

NORMAL (from earlier years) would have continued to keep munitions replacement (due to ag and use) in the budget, and if we are “running out of arms”, that may be the case due to recent years’ defense budgets, regardless of the war in Ukraine.

https://acquisitiontalk.com/2022/05/the-state-of-army-munitions-and-modernization-priorities/


18 posted on 01/18/2023 8:06:04 AM PST by Wuli
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Maybe I am ignorant but how come the Ukraine never built factories to build Soviet caliber artillery shells?

Its a common mistake to view Ukraine as a proper, organized, unified, historically self-governing country. It never has been, regardless of what the UN or neocons in DC tell you. It was born in 1991, out of the arsehole of the Soviet Union, post-communist, totally-corrupt, a cultural vacuum, dominated by Russian language, no sense of itself, and disunified

Just ready to be manipulated by Russian oligarchs, Putin, local politicians, Hunter Biden and US neocons - all for their own corrupt goals

20 posted on 01/18/2023 8:14:17 AM PST by PGR88
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“So just how badly are we depleting our own arsenal of military hardware as we keep sending more and more arms to Ukraine?”

Not even 0.5% was sent to the Ukes.


26 posted on 01/18/2023 8:54:33 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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But can they send them more Ukrainians?


28 posted on 01/18/2023 9:09:06 AM PST by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
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“Maybe I am ignorant but how come the Ukraine never built factories to build Soviet caliber artillery shells?”

Ukraine was more of a center for building ships, being the home of the Soviet Black Sea fleet.


29 posted on 01/18/2023 9:12:00 AM PST by Boogieman
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I’m sure Zelensky has been stashing his money in Israel.


32 posted on 01/18/2023 11:54:08 AM PST by euram (allALL)
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GOOD. Israel needs to learn RuSSia is not a trustworthy “partner” in any sense of the word.


33 posted on 01/18/2023 12:42:48 PM PST by Vaden (Russia: epicenter of globohomo)
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No one was prepared for tens of thousands of shells and thousands of smart weapons being used every month for almost a year.
Ukraine did build up their military, but were also fighting from 2014 onward. Their industrial base is in the east and most is in ruins or controlled by the Russians.
The US strategic reserve was too small, and the only European member of NATO to take Russia seriously and build up its military was Poland. Most European countries other than the UK, France, Poland, and Turkey don't even spend 2% of their GDP on the military
37 posted on 01/18/2023 10:06:00 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers." )
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38 posted on 01/20/2023 4:29:59 AM PST by SJackson (nations that are barren of liberties are also barren of groceries, Louis Fisher)
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