EMERGING REGRET ABOUT UKRAINE WAR IN THE U.S.

Sonar 21 ^ | 14 January 2023 | Larry Johnson

[Boogieman]

Sure. For one the “separatists” were using hardware of Russian manufacture that was never used by the Ukrainian military, so it couldn’t have simply been stolen from Ukraine:

https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-separatists-weapons-tracing/31545978.html

Then there’s the simple fact that the “separatists” shot down Malaysian Airlines flight 17 in 2014 with a Russian anti-aircraft missile. It’s not really possible for those things to go missing without anyone noticing, so it’s obvious that Russian provided it to them.

[MarMema]

“Coming to possess a genuine sense of humility is a lesson much easier to learn than be taught and we are *all* about to be taught a lesson we’ll never forget.”

Stolen elections have consequences.

Here is what I think our blowback will be...
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4123823/posts

I have no financial background. I am a retired lab scientist.
I am not that worried about a nuke. Countries are lining up around the block to join BRICS. They are, in abundance, joining together to take down the dollar because we went from good guy to international bully of the decade.

I just read that China is considering a military base in Argentina.
Ushuaia

“A possible Chinese base in Ushuaia would allow Beijing to have a permanent enclave in the Southern Hemisphere, with a projection toward the South Atlantic, which, depending on the conditions negotiated with Argentina, could allow for the construction of facilities, as well as the presence of naval units and military contingents in this quadrant,” Alberto Rojas, director of the International Affairs Observatory at Chile’s Finis Terrae University, told Diálogo, a digital military magazine published by the US Southern Command.”

And we intercepted/took over a ship with over 1000 AK47 rifles from China enroute to Yemen? In the gulf just near Yemen.

Last but not least...check this out!

“A Taiwanese Air Force Officer revealed that he and the others before him have been in contact with NATO and participated in a 6 month “Academic Programme” with NATO senior officials in Italy. This is a serious breach of security as Taiwan is not a NATO member and a breach of the One China Principle.”

If this is true, we are seriously in trouble under NATO.

[MarMema]

was produced in what is today Russia, according to a detailed weapons-tracing study.

“In what is today Russia” is your clue.

Those are Soviet weapons. The Ukrainians have/had them too.
They are available everywhere on the black market.
Germany often seizes them from sellers.

The Soviet Union died in 1991.
You can’t trace those weapons to Russia today.
They haven’t made them for decades.
And if they had any left lying around why would they give them to the separatists, instead of much better weapons?

[Jan_Sobieski]

Ruled by a thug. Run like a mafia territory.

The average Russian loves him! He’s done something right for the last 25 years…

[Boogieman]

“Those are Soviet weapons. The Ukrainians have/had them too.”

Seriously? The article makes it quite clear they traced weapons that the Ukrainian military never possessed. Maybe try actually reading and not just scanning for one phrase you can seize on to try to try to cling to your preconceptions.

“They are available everywhere on the black market.”

Oh, then where would all the money come from to buy divisions of tanks, air defenses, artillery, etc, to equip an army by buying it on the black market? We’re not talking about a case of AKs.

“And if they had any left lying around why would they give them to the separatists, instead of much better weapons?”

Probably so apologists like you could make these silly arguments to try to pretend Russia’s hands are clean.

[Srednik]

Shutka, if you open your materioshki doll of rasPutin you will find Yeltsin, then Gorbachev, then Andropov, then Brezhnev, then Kruschev, then Iosif Visarionovich Djagashvili, then Vladimir Ulyanov. Going forward, Cheka, NKVD, KJB, FSB.

St. Tikhon excommunicated all communists in 1917 and died a martyr in 1927.

Centralized power. Secret police terrorism. Controlled economy. Poverty of soul.

Communists.

[MarMema]

The shooting down of MHA17 I can believe.

But one missile does not implicate the country of Russia.

And to say one going missing without being noticed is absurd.

[MarMema]

Oh please. The Ukrainians have been using old Soviet stuff to shell Donetsk for 8 years.

I can’t help it you are not more aware of the facts.

That is how they knew where the missile that landed in Poland a month ago came from...it was old Soviet stuff used by the Ukrainian army.

Go educate yourself.

[The Sons of Liberty]

EMERGING REGRET ABOUT UKRAINE WAR IN THE U.S.

I can't help but believe that Pedo Joe's STRONG support of Ukraine with OUR weapons and OUR tax dollars are an attempt to keep the illegal cash flowing to the Biden Crime Family.

[Allegra]

Names I have never seen before...

Yep. I saw a new one pop up here just a few minutes ago.

I saw a new name yesterday as well. I suspect they’re being recruited by the existing Yip Yap Squad.

[Boogieman]

"But one missile does not implicate the country of Russia.

And to say one going missing without being noticed is absurd."

Oh come on. We aren't talking about a MANPAD here that someone could toss in a large duffle bag. This was a Buk missile SYSTEM that downed the Malaysian air flight. This is what we are talking about exactly:

If you want to pretend that someone just drives this thing around, crossing international borders to deliver it to "separatists" in Ukraine without someone from the Russian government giving them the stamp of approval, then you are hopeless.

[Chunga85]

Unipolar is dead. Provoking Russia was a terrible mistake because one thing that will do is show the world mighty US is *NOT* invincible.

[Boogieman]

Nothing you say in your post addressed anything I wrote.

[Monterrosa-24]

Your same lie over and over again. Ukraine did NOT shell Donetsk for eight years. Shelling was going both ways, Jack. The Russian invasion of the Donbas in 2014 was the cause. Putin started the fake separatist movement. He has since filled the cemeteries of the Donbas with murdered Ukrainian activists and forcefully conscripted teens. You too, are a war criminal for pushing Putin lies nonstop.

[FlyingEagle]

Yeah - these seem to be the same types who created and led the Jan 6 “””Insurrection “””.

That is, not us.

[MarMema]

I will tell Tucker Carlson and a few others to let me share a cell with them for our war crimes.

😂😂😂😂😂

Just one link to back up anything you posted.

Nope, didn’t think so.

Who is paying for your propaganda time here?

There are hundreds if not thousands of links out there from all sources to claim Azov shelled Donbass since 2014.
Any intelligent person has only to look.

[MarMema]

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/lost-stolen-military-weapons/#:~:text=The%20new%2C%20years-long%20exclusive%20report%20from%20the%20AP,11%20shotguns%2C%20and%20seven%20weapons%20listed%20as%20%E2%80%9Cothers.%E2%80%9D

[MarMema]

Ok. That helps. It is big.

But there is only proof of that one..if Russia were sending them, would there not be evidence of more?

[Monterrosa-24]

I have more than a link. I have family in the Donbas. They are those Russian speakers that you think support Russia. They are patriotic Ukrainians. Your 23-year dictator’s talking points are lies. I don’t care how many Leftist links you have. I know what the truth is.

[cabojoe]

I’m just happy that the worst offender has basically been relegated to Chat. Hope you have the best year ever Allegra!