Scrolling down to just one thread lower, and I saw an alternative to these programs. Perhaps you’d prefer this?
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4119004/posts
Here is my take.
Some kids are heading to that place no matter what you do. A guy I grew up with, who was my friend, was one.
At some point, my Dad sat me down and said that while my friend had treated me with respect and very kindly, he was “a bad dog” and was heading to an early grave. I hated that, but he did.
Looking back, I can see it. He had been in and out of programs, homes, and support systems. More than I can believe. Yet he chose to go back into the life, and ended up on death row.
Some people are going to be lost.