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Opinion: The Troubled Teen Industry: Legal Kidnapping Disguised as Treatment
HerCampus.com ^ | December 23, 2022 | Sana Mamtaney

Posted on 12/26/2022 10:31:50 AM PST by Morgana

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To: frithguild

You waited too long...need to start at 2 years old, when just a love-tap makes them cry. Even a few years after that and they’ll both be more resistant and also know you’re not serious.

Really no different than parents who IGNORE us conservatives, enroll their kid in public schools, and 6 years later decide to home school and do not realize the results that other home schoolers are claiming (and backing up).

It’s important to identify who is on your side EARLY, and those who do, know that Dr. Spock, and the Public Schools, are simply NOT on their side.


21 posted on 12/26/2022 11:16:49 AM PST by BobL
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To: frithguild
There's always this....


22 posted on 12/26/2022 11:18:37 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Morgana

“wilderness therapy, where children are forced to hike for miles and live in the wild with a lack of basic hygiene and food”…

Also known as Basic Training.


23 posted on 12/26/2022 11:20:27 AM PST by Orosius (A)
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To: EEGator

Where do you think a lot of the human trafficking comes from?

Same with women’s shelters.

Predators go to the prey.


24 posted on 12/26/2022 11:23:17 AM PST by redgolum (If this is civilization, I will be the barbarian. )
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To: poinq

Your comments are well presented and illustrate the other side of the problem.


25 posted on 12/26/2022 11:23:51 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: frithguild
NEVER give a child a second warning.. getting hit by a car doesnt give a second warning, getting burnt on the stove doesnt get a second warning.

My mom was a " knock it off right now" . if it did it again, I got paddled.

When my mom spoke , I LISTENED.

26 posted on 12/26/2022 11:27:40 AM PST by Ikeon (work is the dirtiest 4 letter word you can say to someone under 40. )
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To: BobL

We raised 5 kids. Time outs worked. But it does depend on the parent, child and situation. My kids had a mother who is a child therapist and school social worker. She was also a stay at home mom as long as she had children in the home. And both parents agreed to support the other in every single case. If we disagreed we did not do it in front of the child.

Parenting techniques work only within the limitations of the parents and situation. A parent who can’t outlast a child is doomed. I child will learn this early and thats it. You will lose the waiting game forever more. All punishment can work if the parent has the knowledge and ability to follow through. Parents can never lose, or they will always lose.


27 posted on 12/26/2022 11:28:31 AM PST by poinq
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To: Morgana

Occasionally I watch The Dog Whisperer.

The reason the dogs are behaving badly is because the owners are trained wrong.

I am reasonably assured the same principle applies here in most cases.


28 posted on 12/26/2022 11:33:55 AM PST by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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To: Responsibility2nd

I know what site this is. I also know survivors of this school


29 posted on 12/26/2022 11:34:05 AM PST by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor. )
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To: Morgana

They were a sleazy lot of about 3 guys, although guns were highly forbidden at the time, I started carrying a small pistol because I was in a relationship with the top guy’s girlfriend who owned the house, and he was my size and an ex-heavyweight boxer.

If I hadn’t thought so little of them I probably would have accepted some of the mission offers.


30 posted on 12/26/2022 11:36:19 AM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: poinq

We got three verbal warnings which upon reflection was incredibly fair. Then my mother would reach over the top of the washing machine, grab the fly swatter and beat the tar out of us. After the third warning nothing short of the second coming of Jesus could stop the punishment. Words I never heard, “wait til your father gets home”.


31 posted on 12/26/2022 11:38:16 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Valpal1
There is a vast difference between a child that is mentally disturbed, which this kind of treatment will not help in the least, and a child that is acting out, which this kind of treatment MAY help but probably not.

And that is assuming that the treatment is done by honest and good people which is not something you can assume.

Mostly, with a child that is acting out, the entire family needs work, not just the child.

32 posted on 12/26/2022 11:38:23 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (The nation of france was named after a hedgehog... The hedgehog's name was Kevin... Don't ask)
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To: Morgana

My (all too) personal experience as a step dad to teen kids is this. If a teen is hell bent on out doing his last fk up regardless of consequences, there isn’t a damn thing a parent can do about it. The kids live in an alternate reality that they believe is defined by rap music lyrics, video games, and utter disrespect of anything resembling a civil society and right/responsible behavior. My advice...never, ever, EVER marry someone with kids. EVER! Emancipate em and give em an early calculated inheritance and file a restraining order.


33 posted on 12/26/2022 11:41:25 AM PST by know.your.why (If you dont watch the MSM you are uninformed. If you do watch the MSM you are misinformed.)
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To: Orosius; Jane Long; Chode

“Also known as Basic Training.”

Except for one thing, and any of you in the military should know this as I know this. The military does not take everyone. Not everyone can go through basic training so why would you expect that every kid can?

I know. I tried out for the military when I was 18 and I was rejected because of my asthma. I know a kid who was rejected because of something called “flat feet” what ever that is.

These programs try to push every kid into this, lying to parents saying there are doctors on site, there are not, and every year several kids die just like at Diamond ranch academy last week. Mind you that was the second in Utah this year.

Now if you want to send some of these kids to “basic training” then clear them by army recruiting doctors and the send them to an actual army base for six weeks for boot camp with Sargent Carter. Not these fly by night ponzi schemes with rejects from MacDonalds as coaches and no medical staff on sight.


34 posted on 12/26/2022 11:41:37 AM PST by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor. )
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To: Morgana

This type of “school” was commenced on me back in 1969 through 1976 Cincinnati OH and I escaped being trapped for life in a psychotic inmate system possible for life by the skin of my teeth. As I grew to about 15-16 I was getting VERY violent and strong and staff could no longer control me. My parents decided to turn down the offer to have State of Ohio take control and they got me home. My violence and rage of rape, beatings and psychotropic injections was a very long way from stopping. Took a stretch in a state prison to square me away to a life as citizen rather than inmate. Today I am 62 and the bitter rage is a distant memory yet still there buried deep.


35 posted on 12/26/2022 11:45:17 AM PST by thomastheglassexpert (thomastheglassexpert)
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To: redgolum

“Where do you think a lot of the human trafficking comes from?”

Mexico and Eastern Europe, but I get your point.

“Same with women’s shelters.”

I did some electrical work outside of one, and “had to sign” a NDA stating I wouldn’t divulge its location. (which I never would)
Before I knew what it was, I was wondering why I was getting such weird looks by people.
A muscular 6’2” 220 lbs, “lurking” outside an abused women’s shelter clarified that...(looking at electrical wiring)


36 posted on 12/26/2022 11:57:28 AM PST by EEGator
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To: Morgana; All

You didn’t get backlash from me.

Maybe you meant to post that to ALL.

Merry CHRISTmas.

Again, thanks for posting.


37 posted on 12/26/2022 12:05:43 PM PST by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12 of day. )
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To: EEGator

It should be illegal. But in todays day and age how are they going to reconcile these methods while schools and politicians basically kidnap children to give them “gender affirming care.”


38 posted on 12/26/2022 12:08:53 PM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: Organic Panic

Valid point, and I honestly don’t have a clue.


39 posted on 12/26/2022 12:16:06 PM PST by EEGator
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To: Morgana

Scrolling down to just one thread lower, and I saw an alternative to these programs. Perhaps you’d prefer this?

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4119004/posts


40 posted on 12/26/2022 12:17:08 PM PST by PAR35
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