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Tilt-Rotor, Take Two
Battleswarm Blog ^ | 15 Dec 2022 | Lawrence Person

Posted on 12/15/2022 2:13:20 PM PST by Rummyfan

The U.S. Army has announced that it’s next helicopter isn’t a helicopter.

The US Army awarded Textron Inc’s Bell unit with the contract to build the next-generation helicopter, ending years of fierce competition between Lockheed Martin Corp.-Boeing Co. to replace the aging fleet of Sikorsky UH-60 Black Hawks by 2030.

The Army’s “Future Vertical Lift” award went to Bell’s V-280 Valor tiltrotor aircraft, similar to the V-22 Osprey. The new aircraft can take off and land vertically like a helicopter but rotate massive props to fly like a fixed-wing aircraft at impressive speeds.

Indeed, the specs are pretty impressive:

General characteristics

Crew: 4
Capacity: 14 troops
Length: 50.5 ft (15.4 m)
Width: 81.79 ft (24.93 m)
Height: 23 ft 0 in (7 m)
Empty weight: 18,078 lb (8,200 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 30,865 lb (14,000 kg)
Powerplant: 2 × Rolls-Royce AE 1107F[54] turboshaft
Propellers: 35 ft 0 in (10.7 m) diameter

Performance

Cruise speed: 320 mph (520 km/h, 280 kn)
Combat range: 580–920 mi (930–1,480 km, 500–800 nmi)
Ferry range: 2,400 mi (3,900 km, 2,100 nmi)
Service ceiling: 6,000 ft (1,800 m) ; in hover out of ground effect at 95 °F (35 °C)
Disk loading: 16[55] lb/sq ft (78 kg/m2)

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TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: airmobile; v280valor
Video at the link.
1 posted on 12/15/2022 2:13:20 PM PST by Rummyfan
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To: Rummyfan

How many can fit on a C-5?


2 posted on 12/15/2022 2:23:04 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> --- )
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To: Rummyfan

Rolls Royce power.
AE1107F


3 posted on 12/15/2022 2:25:57 PM PST by nascarnation (Let's go Brandon!)
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To: smokingfrog

You may not need so many C5’s


4 posted on 12/15/2022 2:30:09 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: Rummyfan

Useless, unnecessary, A load of political corruption crp.

-fJRoberts_


5 posted on 12/15/2022 2:32:08 PM PST by A strike ("The worse, the better." - V.I.Lenin (& Schwab & Soros)
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To: Rummyfan

“Service ceiling: 6,000 ft (1,800 m) ; in hover out of ground effect at 95 °F (35 °C)”

I read that cruise altitude is 11,500 feet. Both seem to limit areas of operation.


6 posted on 12/15/2022 2:32:44 PM PST by TexasGator (!!!)
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To: Rummyfan
I always choose the LOSING aircraft. I picked the YF-23 over the YF-22, I lost.

I love the Lockheed RAIDER, shown here. I'm lovin' the counter-rotating blades and that TAIL PROP for some extra kick!:

This one was NOT chosen.

7 posted on 12/15/2022 2:34:49 PM PST by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: Rummyfan
The thing looks like a boon to video games, recruiting commercials, air shows and stadium flyovers... and a disaster in a combat environment.

They push this idea of triple redundant systems in the literature, but the entire design is necessarily more fragile than a helo or a fixed wing turboprop because of the number and location of the moving parts.

Can it perform a medevac in a hot LZ? Can it lift vertically with only one rotor? The geometry means all weapons have to be on the fuselage belly or inside the body, nothing on the wings. The tilting movement of the fuselage when accelerating also presents a vulnerability of the aircraft and limits to defensive weapons during dustoff. Hopefully medevac drones will bridge this gap before it gets tested in battle.

8 posted on 12/15/2022 2:37:26 PM PST by jz638
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To: Rummyfan
WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF AN F-117 STEALTH FIGHTER MATED WITH A V-22 OSPREY? This is the one chosen by the Army:


9 posted on 12/15/2022 2:38:35 PM PST by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

With a ferry range over 2,000 miles, maybe not, but then they will just wear out sooner. Also much wider than the Blackhawk, limiting where it can land. Seems like they would still need helos for medivac & search and rescue.


10 posted on 12/15/2022 2:48:17 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> --- )
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To: CivilWarBrewing

That tail seems huge.


11 posted on 12/15/2022 2:51:38 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> --- )
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To: smokingfrog

How many can fit on a C-5?

dozens


12 posted on 12/15/2022 4:43:52 PM PST by Reynoldo (BurnLootMurder)
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To: Rummyfan

How about the Army buying both for versatility and promoting more competition between contractors?


13 posted on 12/15/2022 5:10:18 PM PST by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: Rummyfan

Service ceiling: 6,000 ft? That’s not even enough to get off the ground here.


14 posted on 12/15/2022 6:47:46 PM PST by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: TexasGator
“Service ceiling: 6,000

Funny thing is, their video shows it flying way above a bunch of mountains. Something does not add up here.

15 posted on 12/15/2022 6:56:31 PM PST by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: TexasGator
“Service ceiling: 6,000

Funny thing is, their video shows it flying way above a bunch of mountains. Something does not add up here.

16 posted on 12/15/2022 6:56:32 PM PST by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: Rummyfan

Needs a cloaking device!


17 posted on 12/15/2022 8:08:59 PM PST by immadashell (Save Innocent Lives: Ban Gun Free Zones)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

I picked HD-DVD over BluRay. But we weren’t the ones that made the wrong choice.


18 posted on 12/16/2022 12:50:07 PM PST by Mr. Blond
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