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To: FtrPilot; BeauBo; SpeedyInTexas; PIF

My impression was that the turkish baklavar drones could do the longer range targeting but that the ukes needed to first take out russian tracking that targeted the baklavar drones.

For a time we heard that the ukes had mastered the the takeout of russian ground radar tracking in the Kherson region. and that that enabled the ukes to send in the baklavar drones. for targeting.

Then that story died.

Something happened. The russians did something or the ukes didn’t something. Or something changed. Whatever, the solution to the artillery problem disappeared.

Anyone know what happened? or how that could be changed/upgraded?


52 posted on 12/02/2022 3:42:01 PM PST by ckilmer (q)
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To: ckilmer

You mean the Turkish Bayraktar TB2? Baklava is a Turkish pastry.

TB2s are not artillery dedicated like the Russian Orlaon-10 or Orlon-30.

The UA still has no answer to the dedicated Orlon-10/30 system. Russian artillery is as deadly as ever - just that they are low (relatively) on 152mm and 122mm shells and rockets.

Other than that I have no idea what you are asking.


53 posted on 12/02/2022 3:53:05 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: ckilmer
Then that story died.

Sometimes stories die because the military need them to die. They could be providing valuable information to the enemy.

Anyone know what happened? or how that could be changed/upgraded?

I believe that Russia was shooting down most of the TB-2s that were looking for artillery. The TB-2s are not as stealthy as the U.S. drones. The risk was not worth the reward.

TB-2s can carry tank killing missiles. Their most important mission, at this point in time, would be to stop or slow down any tank break-out.

They can do this by loitering on the UKR side of the FEBA, outside range of RU mobile SAMs. Then, if any tanks break out, the TB-2 could then vector to the tank's location and take them out.

Most of the above is guesswork.

56 posted on 12/03/2022 8:36:10 AM PST by FtrPilot
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