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To: ckilmer

You mean the Turkish Bayraktar TB2? Baklava is a Turkish pastry.

TB2s are not artillery dedicated like the Russian Orlaon-10 or Orlon-30.

The UA still has no answer to the dedicated Orlon-10/30 system. Russian artillery is as deadly as ever - just that they are low (relatively) on 152mm and 122mm shells and rockets.

Other than that I have no idea what you are asking.


53 posted on 12/02/2022 3:53:05 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

The question is: how do you target russian artillery—20-30 miles from the front line

Presumably the reason that so many more russian tanks have been taken out than artillery —is because the russian tanks have to get closer to the front line than the russian artillery.

Something needs to spot and radio back the coordinates for the russian artillery in real time. So the uke artillery counter battery can take out the russian artillery.

Presumeably long range reconnaissance was the job of the Turkish Bayraktar TB2. They could fly the distance that little hand held drones could not fly. Those hand held drones dropping grenades are all over the internet. But they can’t fly more than a mile or two. So the Ukes need the Longer range drones to spot the russian artillery far behind the russian lines.

The problem was that early in the war the russians figured out how to shoot down the Turkish Bayraktar TB2. They had mobile radar systems that would track them and send their coordinates to whatever ordenance they used to shoot them down.

Then this past summer there were reports from the Kherson region that ukes had learned how to take out the mobile radar systems. Once the mobile radar systems were destroyed—then the Turkish Bayraktar TB2 could be brought back into the battle space for long range reconnaisance-—presumably to take out artillery.

But that story died. The ukes are not taking out russian artillery at scale. This is a mystery. Why? Because the ukes have artillery that’s capable of precisely hitting the russian artillery. And they have the range.

Where is the problem?


54 posted on 12/03/2022 4:42:44 AM PST by ckilmer (q)
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