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Bill To Ban Trump From Becoming President Via 14th Amendment Under Consideration
Bipartisan Repoty ^ | November 16, 2022 | Caleb Newton

Posted on 11/16/2022 8:11:47 AM PST by lizma2

Rep. David Cicilline (D-R.I.) is pursuing legislation that would ban Donald Trump from ever holding federal office again in connection to his role in the violent events that transpired at the Capitol last year, putting many people’s lives and the continuance of democracy at risk.

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KEYWORDS: 14thamendment; attainder; billofattainder; fourteenthamendment; trump
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To: greenishness

I watched that break & enter video also. A lot of “our people” were yelling ANTIFA over & over, and pulling them down. I also saw the uniformed guy at the front, opening the doors and ushering everyone in. A couple of those were ANTIFA guys.


61 posted on 11/16/2022 10:06:02 AM PST by WVNan (nO)
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To: Soul of the South

I’m sick to the bone of hearing democracy democracy, democracy. Dammit the USA is a CONSTITUIONAL REPPUBLIC AND OUR CONST ITUTIONAL IS IN REAL DANGER!!!!!!!!


62 posted on 11/16/2022 10:14:49 AM PST by WVNan (nO)
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To: Verginius Rufus

While they didn’t recieve equal justice as the BLM/antifa rioters, they weren’t completely innocent.

But trespassing ain’t the equal of insurrection.


63 posted on 11/16/2022 11:20:32 AM PST by RedMonqey
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To: lizma2

Punishment without conviction.
Way to go idiot democRATS. (That’s redundant)


64 posted on 11/16/2022 11:51:15 AM PST by 9422WMR (45 1. Lie, cheat, steal. It’s how the democRATS operate. )
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To: lizma2

Bill of Attainder is unconstitutional but Demon Rat party hacks don’t care.


65 posted on 11/16/2022 12:50:08 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: chief lee runamok

No.


66 posted on 11/16/2022 2:13:24 PM PST by sauropod (Fascists also buy Comcast cable packages" - Olby - Wanna buy mine?)
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To: packagingguy

We’re no longer a republic.

Constitutional is whatever Deep State thinks it can get away with doing.


67 posted on 11/16/2022 2:14:24 PM PST by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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To: OHPatriot

Cicilline has been a puke for a long time.


68 posted on 11/16/2022 2:19:11 PM PST by sauropod (Fascists also buy Comcast cable packages" - Olby - Wanna buy mine?)
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To: Boogieman

It was not sedition. Biden was not yet President… trump was president. Did he commit sedition against himself? In fact the same logic applies to “insurrection.”


69 posted on 11/16/2022 2:27:50 PM PST by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton)
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To: packagingguy

I was coming here to say that.

I think he is too old…but he has every right to run.


70 posted on 11/16/2022 2:29:23 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: ez

“Did he commit sedition against himself?”

Well, he didn’t commit sedition at all, but for the sake of argument one doesn’t commit sedition against the president at all, one commits sedition against the nation. So anyone can technically do it, even if they are a sitting president.


71 posted on 11/16/2022 3:10:22 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: lizma2
It seems like Democrats never volunteer solid reasons, or likewise solid video evidence of something that Trump allegedly said, anytime they whine to impeach Trump, or threaten to disqualify him under Section 3 of 14th Amendment (14A) imo.

In fact, in stark contrast to the ongoing Democratic and RINO evil of bearing false witness against Trump regarding January 6 (J6) imo, every member of Congress who voted not to investigate allegations of rigged electoral votes needs to be removed from office under Section 3 for not upholding their oaths to protect the following constitutionally enumerated safeguards to insure fair elections.

Starting with Section 2 of 14A, a penalty that mandates a loss of House seats for states where elections have been stolen, I wouldn't be surprised if Democratic Rep. David Cicilline hasn't read that section.

Excerpted from 14A:

In fact, Cicilline can be the first to be booted under Section 3 of 14A for voting to ignore the federal government's Section 2 responsibilities to investigate alleged voting fraud on J6.

Consider that the post-Civil War congressional Republicans who drafted Section 2 made it to discourage southern Democrats (my word) from rigging the ballot boxes that Democrats are now alleged to have done for 2020, and now 2022 elections!

Section 2: Apportionment of Representatives

So untaught history may be repeating itself.

In fact, federal government-ignored allegations of integrity problems with 2020 and 2022 elections might lead people to question if political descendants of the former Confederate States who are possibly in Congress are effectively trying to reverse the outcome of the Civil War!

Adding to his Section 3 list of possible constitutional violations to boot Cicilline from Congress, also consider that. by his J6 vote, he chose to ignore the Constitution's guarantee of republican form of government for each state.

"Article IV, Section 4: The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government [emphasis added], and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence."

Additionally, Cicilline also ignored that so-called state "winner take all" laws for electoral votes are unconstitutional imo, another consideration for being kicked out of Congress under Section 3 imo.

More specifically, Cicilline ignored that when the states ratified the 12th Amendment (12A), they effectively prohibited themselves from making such laws imo.

Excerpted from the 12th Amendment:

"12th Amendment: The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice- President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate [emphasis added], ..."

In fact, Justice Joseph Story had emphasized that the overall effect of a state with divided electoral votes is that it reduces number of electoral votes for a single candidate.

"In case of any party divisions in a state, it may neutralize its whole vote, while all the other states give an unbroken electoral vote." —Justice Joseph Story, Article 2, Section 1, Clauses 2 and 3, Commentaries on the Constitution 3, 1833."

Regarding 12A, let's add to Cicilline's list that he also ignored that 12A also indicates that the chain of custody for electoral votes is to remain unbroken between official, constitutionally qualified electors and Vice President imo.

Again, half of Congress needs to be warned not to let the door hit them when they follow Cicilline out of the House of Representatives under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment for violating their oaths to protect and defend constitutionally enumerated voting integrity safeguards.

Corrections, insights welcome.

72 posted on 11/16/2022 6:58:17 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: packagingguy

Would seem NO ONE IN DC has had 7th grade civics...


73 posted on 11/16/2022 11:44:40 PM PST by Freedom56v2
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To: lizma2

Does it contain the same for Pelosi,the entire leadership of the FBI,Capitol Police?


74 posted on 11/17/2022 4:38:45 AM PST by ballplayer
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