Posted on 11/10/2022 11:09:37 AM PST by Red Badger
Why can’t other states do what Florida does?
Here we are mid-afternoon the day after an election , and we still don’t know who won dozens and dozens of federal races in Arizona , California , Nevada , Washington , New York , Oregon , and other states. In several states, the results won’t be known for days, perhaps even weeks. Yet Florida, the nation’s third-most populous state, has for several election cycles in a row counted and reported all its ballots quickly on election night itself, without controversy or major court challenges.
In a world with so much technology at our fingertips and with 233 years of experience with constitutional elections, there is no good reason why every state can’t operate as cleanly and efficiently as Florida does. Indeed, for any state to fail to run elections as well as Florida does is a travesty.
Florida learned its lesson from the 2000 presidential election fiasco, which saw George W. Bush carry the state over Al Gore by 537 votes after weeks of disputes about “hanging chads,” spoiled ballots, confusing “butterfly” ballots, and other embarrassments. In a set of major reforms enacted under Gov. Jeb Bush in 2001 and in several subsequent reform laws (including one in 2021), Florida provided common sense and reliability for its voting systems.
States that adopt all the favorite “progressive” voting practices, though, do just the opposite. They endlessly complicate things, undermine voting security, diminish voter trust in voting integrity — the longer it takes to count votes, the greater the suspicions, whether justified or not, of skullduggery — and leave the rest of the country waiting just to find out which party gets to organize each chamber of Congress and work in the Oval Office.
The public should not put up with these fiascoes.
While this is not the place to detail all the things Florida does right, it is easy to cite some of the reasons for bad performance in other states — and to explain why, even apart from vote-counting efficiency, those states’ practices are ill-advised.
The biggest culprit is widespread mail-in voting, which other states don’t handle as well as Florida does. It’s a less secure system, with massive chain-of-custody issues; it requires more work from voting officials, who must verify ballot requests, ballots mailed out, and ballots mailed back; and in states where ballots need only be postmarked (rather than delivered) by Election Day, it deliberately sets up long waits.
Not only that, but it is a bad idea anyway (even though Florida uses its own version of widespread early voting). If the vast majority of voters cast ballots before Election Day, the better-known candidates, especially incumbents, enjoy huge advantages. Without a single, unified day for the public to vote (except in cases of “for cause” absentee voting), many voters deal with less information than Election Day balloters. Long-shot candidates running energetic and creative campaigns have trouble even getting attention from many voters until the very final weeks of a campaign season.
Other complicated systems, such as “ ranked choice ” voting used in Alaska, confuse voters considerably, lead to many voters gaming the system, deny the chance for one-on-one major candidate competitions, and take many days to tabulate.
Instead of all this foofaraw, Florida keeps it simple, clean, fair, and efficient. The states that fail to do so embarrass themselves, and they harm representative democracy.
‘states that dawdle’ gee who can that be (my state).
The chaos is intentional. Period. It makes it easier to harvest ballots even after “election day”. Similar to “ranked choice voting” which intentionally favors the incumbent.
Convince me otherwise.
We either get a grip on this stuff or we will continue to suffer the consequences.
And, I saw one site that said about 2.8 million Floridians voted by mail. Obviously they’ve got the fraud under control, and they’ve got voting and the vote counting process streamlined.
In a set of major reforms enacted under Gov. Jeb Bush in 2001 and in several subsequent reform laws (including one in 2021), Florida provided common sense and reliability for its voting systems.
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Well, finally someone has something good to say about Jeb.
As for the good things to say about how Florida conducted this election, it sure shouldn’t go unnoticed that they just went through a massive hurricane too....
The only way that will happen is if they slip up and one of the good guys gets in that wasn’t supposed to.
Which might be happening right now.
not going to happen when delaying the vote favors the democrats.
The first bill the House should pass on January is the Florida Election Road Map Act.
Set standards and penalties for slow-walking the count. There’s no excuse, except fraud, to delay this count. Everyone knows that. Even the left.
They don’t “dawdle.” The delay until the required votes come in and/or they can throw out the “unacceptable” votes.
I worked the ICE machine (Dominion but has no internet connection) at my Florida precinct. I hooked up a modem to both machines and had my results sent to the county supervisor of elections by 7:45 pm. I understand we had statewide results by 9 pm.
That paid off big, as we saw two days ago. In fact, Florida has a dedicated state-level election law enforcement branch now, which he created.
These problem states could well learn from Florida's example. Assuming those currently running those states are interested in fixing the fraudulent mechanisms that keep them in power. Yeah, fat chance of that.
“in states where ballots need only be postmarked (rather than delivered) by Election Day, it deliberately sets up long waits.“
This has to be the worst option for fairness and provides the most opportunity for cheating. There should not be any ballots accepted after closing of the polls on election day. If people want to mail in their ballots, they need to mail them in much earlier than the day of the election.
Don’t know if you noticed, but Florida is pretty much all red.
Why would ANY blue state follow Florida’s lead?
Yes, and yes.
I went in to vote, the woman at the first desk scans my driver’s license in a machine, computer checks to see if I’m registered and what district(s) I live in, she gives me a ballot for my district(s), I go to a cordoned off set of
stand up desks, pick one, fill in the ovals on my ballot choices, take the ballot to a counting machine, insert it under the watching eyes of a poll worker, it takes in my ballot and counts it right then.
Total time in polling place: ten minutes...................
I have lived in Floria my entire life, I’ve voted in every election since 1978.
Here in Florida the so called “vote by mail” is called Absentee voting by many Floridians.
The major difference in the way Florida does it is, you must personally request a ballot, prove who you are, and your signature is verified, then you will get a ballot that can be filled out and returned.
In other vote by mail states, every registered voter gets sent a ballot, no request by the voter is required.
The way Florida does it is vastly different than true vote by mail states and eliminates nearly all of the fraud.
If you wanted to cheat, you would have to fill out a form, verify your identity and signature, assuming you can do all that, think of how difficult it would be to create enough ballots to change an election in a state the size of Florida.
States dawdle so they can manufacture ballots in favor of the Dems.
I agree.
There is no other logical explanation in year 2022 to have elections that take days and weeks.
We were supposed to have flying cars, evolved societies, and world peace by now. Instead all we got is electric fire traps, kakistocracy, globalist suppression, and elections run by utter baffoons.
But it’s no accident. You can’t hide votes if everything is clean, short and up front. Like a magician who builds up a false context and then distracts you with slight-of-hand, the real hand behind what is going on in these elections is very hidden, and not a buffoon at all. What they orchestrate is complex and on it’s face must appear chaotic. That’s all for show.
It won’t embarrass them because it is deliberate.
Where is this “Representative Democracy” claptrap the author claims the United States is supposed to be, coming from? I’ve seen this hash mentioned several times this past week in separate and unconnected articles on the internet.
We are a representative republic with a constitution. We are NOT a democracy. Of any kind. There is NOTHING in any of our founding documents alluding to the formation of a “democracy”, a faulty form of government the founders recognized as “majority or mob rule”, which they studiously avoided creating.
NO!!!
They're not buffoons. Not even remotely.
They're liars, cheats, and thieves; they know perfectly well what they're doing. It's not stupidity and incompetence, it's willful evil.
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