I'll drink one for ya.
Yer lucky you got one of them hard-headed Finn women.
She'll get you a beer - they're better n' a Saint Bernard, that way. 
Posted on 11/06/2022 5:36:43 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
Yeah, just ignore the two elections Ukraine had after 2014 and Putin’s own evil actions. Soros has his problems and needs to be opposed, but he is not the all-powerful puppet master that some paranoid souls believe. Nor will a Russian victory in Ukraine have any effect on the power of the left in the U.S. Those who think that by supporting Russia that they will bring down Soros and strike a blow for freedom in America are only deluding themselves. We have our own corrupt political system here. Perhaps we should invite the Russians to invade the U.S. and “liberate” us.
So you admit 2014 was a coup that overrode the result of a democratic election and you're OK with it and now that you have your way we must respect the results of all future elections, as long as they go your way.
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I'll drink one for ya.
Yer lucky you got one of them hard-headed Finn women.
She'll get you a beer - they're better n' a Saint Bernard, that way.
Thanksgiving is coming, and so are Da Bills.
The Cryins cured me of football in 1980 [Another One Bites The Dust!].
One disappointing season, that one...
Not at all. The equally democratically elected parliament declared that Yanukovych had abandoned his office after he fled the country because of popular protests against his reneging on a EU-Ukrainian economic agreement, instead seeking closer ties with Russia. Any possible involvement by Soros does not take away that the protests were a grass-roots movement supported by the vast majority of the population.
That being said, even if the claim of a coup were true, that does not delegitimize the following elections. The present Ukrainian government was installed by the Ukrainian people, not Soros. It is also very interesting that those who are attempting to justify the Russian invasion by claims of Ukrainian corruption pass over the evident greater corruption of Yanukovych and Putin. This only goes to show that such claims are nothing but a fig-leaf.
Your Ukie sockpuppet opponent keeps leaving out The Little Facts about "the grassroots movement".
We're here to help. 
She is one of them special Fins.
Comes from up round Misery Bay.
How anybody can live up there is outside of me. Hell, they most likely got 6 foot of snow on the ground up there by now.
So? How much did Russia spend to influence Ukrain's politics?
Russia is much better at hiding its influence money than the USA.
Nice re-direct.
You might want to explain why the Ukraine is any of OUR concern.
Interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSxaa-67yGM
Victoria Nuland, 3:56 into the video (near tail end of the video):
“So on that piece Geoff, when I wrote the note [US vice-president’s national security adviser Jake] Sullivan’s come back to me VFR [direct to me], saying you need [US Vice-President Joe] Biden and I said probably tomorrow for an atta-boy and to get the deets [details] to stick. So Biden’s willing.”
(Ref.: BBC article, February 7, 2014; https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957)
So? How much did Russia spend to influence Ukrain's politics?
Kiryandil wrote:
Nice re-direct.
You might want to explain why the Ukraine is any of OUR concern.
Marktwain replies:
US spending doesn't make Russia the good guy.
The deep state spending in Ukraine was probably bad politics.
It doesn't justify the Russian invasion.
However, the world is much, much smaller than it was in 1810.
Even then we were willing to invade North Africa for our interests.
Keeping Russia from gobbling up Eastern Europe is clearly in our interests.
“...Keeping Russia from gobbling up Eastern Europe is clearly in our interests...”
Yes, and those gobbled up natural resources that would enrich Russia will make the America-hating Russians stronger. They are becoming more Bolshevik-like and even fly more communist flags, erect more communist statues, and use more communist hero names like Rosa Luxemburg’s.
I think that you mean the attempt of Ukraine to exert its authority over its sovereign territory seized by Russian surrogate militias.
Revolutions that overthrow democracies are Unconstitutional by nature. Disenfranchised voters have an obligation to secede from lawless Revolutionary Governments. Why are you lawless? Why do you support unconstitutional Revolutions? Revolutionaries know they don’t have the votes, which is why they resort to violence.
“Tock, Tock. Monte Clark. Another One Bites the Dust”. We had season tickets that year. LOL. those were the days.
See the link in post #2. It’s the academic paper the two articles are citing and you can find it in the links within the second article.
You should really look at what happened on 2014. Yanukovich was removed by a 328-0 vote of the parliament. While this action was doubtfully constitutional, it was nevertheless an action of the democratically elected parliament. It was not the military seizure of power. Yanukovich had created a crisis situation in which he had lost the confidence and support of the population. Since then there have been two presidential elections. Zelesnsky was elected president by an overwhelming vote of the people in 2019. He was not installed by armed force. Thus whatever is one's take of the events of 2014, it does not effect the legitimacy of the present government.
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