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1 posted on 10/27/2022 5:51:48 AM PDT by shadowlands1960
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To: shadowlands1960

I’d cancel my PayPal account, but I already did after their last attempted theft.


2 posted on 10/27/2022 5:54:42 AM PDT by Flick Lives (Cui bono)
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To: shadowlands1960
"They called it a mistake"

Obviously it wasn't.

4 posted on 10/27/2022 5:58:50 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: shadowlands1960

That is how to go out of business.


5 posted on 10/27/2022 5:58:53 AM PDT by Salvavida (“Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.”)
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To: shadowlands1960

Good question. Does this policy of thievery extend to all social media outside of PayPal?


6 posted on 10/27/2022 6:02:31 AM PDT by WMarshal (Neocons and leftards are the same species of vicious rat.c)
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To: shadowlands1960

Crap, just bought some performance car stuff with PayPal credit. Wonder if they’ll add $2500 to my balance!


7 posted on 10/27/2022 6:06:23 AM PDT by jughandle
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To: shadowlands1960

Where is Paypal’s authority to issue and enforce fines? I don’t understand how this could stand up to legal scrutiny, other than corrupt judges.


10 posted on 10/27/2022 6:08:26 AM PDT by KobraKai
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To: shadowlands1960
I just use apps like PayPal and Venmo to pay for things. I never realized there was a "social media" component to them.

Do people actually go to PayPal to post articles and other content like we do here on Free Republic?

11 posted on 10/27/2022 6:11:03 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (4,360,232 active user on Truth Social)
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To: shadowlands1960

As expected. I didn’t think they were sincere in their “repentance.” The government allows them to seize money for unapproved thoughts.

I realize how horrible this is. Most of the public doesn’t even know. The media didn’t tell them about the issue 2 weeks ago, and isn’t going to tell them about the latest development.

So the media and the government are OK with this theft and the open proof that our government is a fascist dictatorship.


15 posted on 10/27/2022 6:18:41 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Our news media isn't worth camel spit.)
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To: shadowlands1960

Just what I needed to cancel my PayPal account. They took a bunch of money someone paid me and I had no idea why until I saw their terms.


16 posted on 10/27/2022 6:20:58 AM PDT by anton
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To: shadowlands1960

...but they’re a PRIVATE company, so they can screw Americans out of their freedoms (even if requested by government).

So what’s the problem here?

(libertarian viewpoint)


17 posted on 10/27/2022 6:23:33 AM PDT by BobL
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As they say, get woke, go broke. If you have a Paypal account, CLOSE IT NOW!!!!! There are other alternatives to Paypal.


18 posted on 10/27/2022 6:25:50 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: shadowlands1960

PAYPAL isn’t the only payment service out there. I had an account years ago when I sold and bought stuff on ebay. I lost interest in ebay as a scam site when I bought something that was pictured and what I got was not what I bid on. Ebay was no help and I lost a lot of money in that transaction.


23 posted on 10/27/2022 6:49:39 AM PDT by lucky american (Progressives are attacking our rights and y'all will sit there and take it.)
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To: shadowlands1960

Dig deeper, Pay Pal is most likely controlled by the CCP.


26 posted on 10/27/2022 7:17:11 AM PDT by kenmcg (t)
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To: shadowlands1960
what PayPal seemed to propose by announcing in an updated acceptable use policy, effective Nov. 3, 2022, that,
"You may not use the PayPal service for activities that:....." “Involve the sending, posting, or publication of any messages, content, or materials that, in PayPal’s sole discretion, (a) are harmful ... or objectionable … (e) depict, promote, or incite hatred or discrimination of protected groups or of individuals or groups based on protected characteristics (e.g. ... religion, gender or gender identity, sexual orientation, etc.) … (g) .... promote misinformation … or (i) are otherwise unfit for publication.”

The update also stated,

"Violation of this Acceptable Use Policy constitutes a violation of the PayPal User Agreement and may subject you to damages, including liquidated damages of $2,500.00 U.S. dollars per violation..."[99] [100]

Obviously, since even posting what the Bible states regarding false gospels as well as illicit sexual unions and effects thereof can be subjectively judged in "PayPal’s sole discretion" as "harmful" or "objectionable" then this policy effectively can work to silence those whom PayPal autocratically judges to be politically objectionable.

And while PayPal later said that it will not fine $2500 users who engage in “misinformation” or “hatred” against protected identities," and that this language was never intended to be inserted in our policy, what PayPal removed is not fining people for misinformation, and it changed "activities that.... are harmful ... or objectionable … (e) depict, promote, or incite hatred or discrimination of protected groups or of individuals or groups based on protected characteristics, " into forbidding "the promotion of hate, violence, racial or other forms of intolerance that is discriminatory." Its Acceptable Use Policy now states,

Prohibited Activities You may not use the PayPal service for activities that:...relate to transactions involving... (f) the promotion of hate, violence, racial or other forms of intolerance that is discriminatory.

Yet in PayPal subjective "sole discretion, "the promotion of hate, violence, racial or other forms of intolerance that is discriminatory" can easily translate into what was previously ambiguously described as activities that:....." “Involve the sending, posting, or publication of any messages, content, or materials that, in PayPal’s sole discretion, (a) are harmful ... or objectionable … (e) depict, promote, or incite hatred or discrimination of protected groups or of individuals or groups based on protected characteristics (e.g. ... religion, gender or gender identity, sexual orientation, etc.) …

And as the PayPal User Agreement also states,

you must adhere to the terms of this Acceptable Use Policy. Violation of this Acceptable Use Policy constitutes a violation of the PayPal User Agreement and may subject you to damages, including liquidated damages of $2,500.00 U.S. dollars per violation, which may be debited directly from your PayPal account(s) as outlined in the User Agreement (see “Restricted Activities and Holds” section of the PayPal User Agreement).

And Restricted Activities and Holds” section of the PayPal User Agreement y states.

If you’ve violated our Acceptable Use Policy, then you’re also responsible for damages to PayPal caused by your violation of this policy..You acknowledge and agree that $2,500.00 U.S. dollars per violation of the Acceptable Use Policy is presently a reasonable minimum estimate of PayPal’s actual damages - including, but not limited to, internal administrative costs incurred by PayPal to monitor and track violations, damage to PayPal’s brand and reputation, and penalties imposed upon PayPal by its business partners resulting from a user’s violation - considering all currently existing circumstances, including the relationship of the sum to the range of harm to PayPal that reasonably could be anticipated because, due to the nature of the violations of the Acceptable Use Policy, actual damages would be impractical or extremely difficult to calculate. PayPal may deduct such damages directly from any existing balance in any PayPal account you control.

Moreover, the "Restricted Activities" in the above section includes providing,

"false, inaccurate or misleading information" as one of the violations which can result in disciplinary PayPal actions, "If we believe in our sole discretion that you have breached this agreement or violated the Acceptable Use Policy."

Thus it remains that it is quite possible for PayPal to engage in the degree of punitive censorship that resulted in an outcry and PayPal modifying its Acceptable Use Policy.

30 posted on 10/27/2022 7:35:26 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him who saves, be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: shadowlands1960

Tired to close my account but they said that I have a 3.00 refund coming to me which has not cleared their system yet, told them they can keep the 3 bucks, but well you know they can’t do that. Hopefully the money will clear their system tomorrow then the account will be closed.


32 posted on 10/27/2022 8:35:53 AM PDT by The Louiswu (The times, they are a changing. )
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To: shadowlands1960

Apparently, PayPal, like all the other corporations run by Leftists, knows that they can survive just fine after they lose a percentage of customers that don’t accept their Leftist agendas. They’ll still have plenty of customers willing to be manipulated.


34 posted on 10/27/2022 9:05:08 AM PDT by robel
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