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IMF: Ukraine Needs $4 BILLION a Month to Keep Govt From Collapsing
The Daily Fetched ^ | 13 October 2022 | Jason Walsh

Posted on 10/13/2022 11:50:57 AM PDT by Sam77

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To: Sam77

Has anybody called for an audit of the billions we’ve already sent to Ukraine?

Like a Republican with balls, maybe?


41 posted on 10/13/2022 1:35:25 PM PDT by DNME (… all experience hath shewn …)
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To: Sam77

They should ask Martha’s Vineyard for the money.

They really want to help people.


42 posted on 10/13/2022 1:49:57 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer” )
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Politico.com
By KENNETH P. VOGEL and DAVID STERN
01/11/2017

Donald Trump wasn’t the only presidential candidate whose campaign was boosted by officials of a former Soviet bloc country.

A Politico investigation found
<><>Ukrainian govt officials helped Hillary and trashed Trump, questioning his fitness for office.
<><>They disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption
<><>They suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election.
<><>They helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers.

A Ukrainian-American operative who was consulting for the Democratic National Committee met with top officials in the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington in an effort to expose ties between Trump, top campaign aide Paul Manafort and Russia, according to people with direct knowledge of the situation.

The Ukrainian efforts had an impact in the race, helping to force Manafort’s resignation and advancing the narrative that Trump’s campaign was deeply connected to Ukraine’s foe to the east, Russia. But they were far less concerted or centrally directed than Russia’s alleged hacking and dissemination of Democratic emails.

Russia’s effort was personally directed by Russian President Vladimir Putin, involved the country’s military and foreign intelligence services, according to U.S. intelligence officials. They reportedly briefed Trump last week on the possibility that Russian operatives might have compromising information on the president-elect. And at a Senate hearing last week on the hacking, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said “I don’t think we’ve ever encountered a more aggressive or direct campaign to interfere in our election process than we’ve seen in this case.”

There’s little evidence of such a top-down effort by Ukraine. Longtime observers suggest that the rampant corruption, factionalism and economic struggles plaguing the country — not to mention its ongoing strife with Russia — would render it unable to pull off an ambitious covert interference campaign in another country’s election.

And President Petro Poroshenko’s administration, along with the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington, insists that Ukraine stayed neutral in the race.Ukraine Worked With Democrats Against Trump in 2016 to Stop Putin. The Bet Backfired Badly.
Real Clear Investigations ^
Posted on 3/10/2022, 8:11:28 AM by FarCenter

Six years ago, before Russia’s full-scale invasion of their country, the Ukrainians bet that a Hillary Clinton presidency would offer better protection from Russian President Vladimir Putin, even though he had invaded Crimea during the Obama-Biden administration, whose Russian policies Clinton vowed to continue.

Working with both the Obama administration and the Clinton campaign, Ukrainian government officials intervened in the 2016 race to help Clinton and hurt Trump in a sweeping and systematic foreign influence operation that’s been largely ignored by the press. The improper, if not illegal, operation was run chiefly out of the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington, where officials worked hand-in-glove with a Ukrainian-American activist and Clinton campaign operative to attack the Trump campaign. The Obama White House was also deeply involved in an effort to groom their own favored leader in Ukraine and then work with his government to dig up dirt on – and even investigate — their political rival.

Ukrainian and Democratic operatives also huddled with American journalists to spread damaging information on Trump and his advisers – including allegations of illicit Russian-tied payments that, though later proved false, forced the resignation of his campaign manager Paul Manafort. The embassy actually weighed a plan to get Congress to investigate Manafort and Trump and stage hearings in the run-up to the election.

As it worked behind the scenes to undermine Trump, Ukraine also tried to kneecap him publicly. Ukraine’s ambassador took the extraordinary step of attacking Trump in an Op-Ed article published in The Hill, an influential U.S. Capitol newspaper, while other top Ukrainian officials slammed the GOP candidate on social media.


43 posted on 10/13/2022 2:58:44 PM PDT by Liz (MAN PROPOSES.......... GOD DISPOSES)
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The Russians will be happy to go if Ukraine leaves their territory alone.

You keep lying here. It's been ethnic Russians in Ukraine that have been the victims of invaders for EIGHT years by Ukrainian nationalists and neo-Nazis thanks to illegal coup we fomented. They had EVERY right to vote for their independence and to join Russia.

All the annexed area would still be part of Ukraine if the Minsk Agreement, which Ukraine signed, had been implemented.

44 posted on 10/13/2022 3:17:11 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Mr. Jeeves

BINGO!


45 posted on 10/13/2022 3:46:25 PM PDT by keving (We the government )
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To: Kazan
The Russians will be happy to go if Ukraine leaves their territory alone.

You're now claiming the Ukrainians invaded Russia? LOL!!!! Go home, Russky.

All the annexed area would still be part of Ukraine if the Minsk Agreement, which Ukraine signed, had been implemented.

The Minsk Agreements collapsed because Russia-back separatists violated the Agreements by attacking Donetsk Airport. Sorry, Tovarishch!

46 posted on 10/13/2022 4:05:40 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Kazan
All the annexed area would still be part of Ukraine if the Minsk Agreement, which Ukraine signed, had been implemented.

BTW, this is a lie even if we assume that Minsk worked since Russia had already invaded and annexed Crimea *before* Minsk. Are you suggesting Russia would have given Crimea back? C'mon.

47 posted on 10/13/2022 4:07:43 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Sam77

The actor Churchill in a T shirt is telling Ukes to be sure to take cover especially tomorrow.

What are they up to and why tomorrow? Just know NATO is itching for a false flag attack.


48 posted on 10/13/2022 4:10:28 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Sam77

Ukraine is about the size of Texas who has an reported annual budget of $143B annually.


49 posted on 10/13/2022 4:42:54 PM PDT by griswold3 (There are no solutions; there are only trade-offs. – Thomas Sowell)
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To: Sam77

I suppose this is our problem.


50 posted on 10/13/2022 5:30:49 PM PDT by TreasonObserver
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To: Alter Kaker
No, the Minsk Agreement failed because neo-Nazis and Ukrainian nationalists threatened another coup if it was implemented.

It was an agreement Putin and the DPR wanted. So, claiming they did something to sabotage is absurd.

51 posted on 10/13/2022 6:50:12 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Sam77

I’m thinking, eff no! We need to get out of the business of sending billions of hard-earned American tax $$$ to a corrupt country.

This is NOT our problem. This is a European issue. There is nothing about this war that screams American national security.

By the way, constitutionally speaking, “In defense of our nation”. Tell me what it is about Ukraine that is in defense of our nation?


52 posted on 10/13/2022 7:02:47 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: Sam77

Maybe they should set up a GoFundMe page.

Who do they think is going to pay for it?

Talk about entitlement mentality.

What chutzpah…


53 posted on 10/13/2022 7:23:15 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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To: usconservative

✔ That works for me.


54 posted on 10/13/2022 9:51:45 PM PDT by boycott
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To: Kazan

In fact Minsk was quite bad for Donbas and good for Ukraine. The Nazis sabotaged it just for a sake of conflict.


55 posted on 10/14/2022 6:53:25 AM PDT by NorseViking
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