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The Curious Whodunit of Nordstreams 1 and 2
GOLD GOATS AND GUNS ^ | 9/29/2022 | Tom Luongo

Posted on 10/01/2022 5:33:36 AM PDT by PK1991

Bottom Line: Cross-national EU/Davos/UN globalist faction blew up the pipeline. "If you look at this dispassionately, you know who and that’s why you know who ordered it, regardless of whose military operators put the bombs on the pipes."

"I can’t stress enough folks that we are in very perilous waters here. I’m no US apologist. This country has crimes it will have to answer for. And the biggest one may be allowing this globalist assholes to corrupt it nearly beyond repair. But don’t let that blind you to what’s really happening.

The important thing I keep trying to point out that thinking in terms of ‘country’ is ultimately the wrong lens to view these people’s actions. Factions are the better lens. Factions cross political borders.

Only when we’re talking about the people and elections do countries matter here and how they interact with these factions."

"Make no mistake, I’m not about to absolve ‘The US’ of any malfeasance here. Some aspect of ‘The US’ was involved. To think otherwise is also terminally naïve."

"Davos is obsessed with preserving the EU and transferring that power to the UN for global government through the end of commercial banking and total surveillance. This is incontrovertibly true. Their pushing hard for CBDCs to replace the current monetary system. Getting the neocons to over-react to the current state of play in Ukraine by blowing up two vital pipelines to Europe is child’s play. You are goading them to do what they want to do anyway. Screw Germany and Russia simultaneously. Again, think Pit Bull and squealing bunny rabbit. But the real win for them isn’t giving Germany no way to back down wrt Russia. It is to get Germany to see themselves as a victim of US colonialism. Cue the RAND report. And the protests over energy costs in Germany over the weekend. This leads to a critical mass of people seeing the US as the world’s leading cancer, deflecting from the real perps." "In the short run, the neocons think they’ve won a big victory. In the long run, it seals Europe’s fate by crashing their markets so they can blame Russia and the US for their bankruptcy while defaulting and consolidating power in Brussels. Blowing up NS1 and NS2 is a brilliant tactical move, it takes options from Putin and leaves him with more military than economic options. Why does anyone think the EU and Davos don’t benefit from this since this is what they actually wanted, prolonged war with Russia. Or am I misreading EU Commission President Ursula Von der Leyen, EU Foreign Minister Josep Borrell and NATO Sec. General Jens Stoltenberg?" "Europe’s only solution [to their financial and debt collapse], said many times by Soros, is to default by issuing perpetual debt, consols, and rolling up all the political power in Europe to the EU Commission and the ECB. To do that you NEED a collapse of the German middle class. With the ECB losing to the Fed over keeping rates low and going for MMT, 80% of the ECB’s balance sheet is at risk. The EU cannot function with a bankrupt ECB. The eurozone ceases to exist. President Lagarde is now losing control over internal bond spreads now that the BoE intervened. But you also need a scapegoat to focus German anger on otherwise you lose them. So, bring in the hyper-aggressive Yanks and the hated Russians. Perfect patsies for this operation. Turn Western Europe as anti-American as Eastern Europe is anti-Russian. The neocons have walked willingly into this trap. Russia was given the option surrender or fight. They chose to fight."


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KEYWORDS: davos; libworldorder; nordstream; pipeline; tinfoiltime; ukraine
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To: Paladin2

They probably will but the gas has to dissipate first.


41 posted on 10/01/2022 7:47:47 AM PDT by Dogfaced Soldier
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To: jimwatx


42 posted on 10/01/2022 7:51:22 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: dljordan

>>> Where would they get the resources? <<<

Pick your favorite radical progressive billionaire.


43 posted on 10/01/2022 7:51:54 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money)
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To: jimwatx; Squantos

Link to youtube video of helo-launched UUV above:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kegFJgpNNmg&ab_channel=DefenseFlashNews


44 posted on 10/01/2022 7:52:38 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee; Dogfaced Soldier
The presence of U.S.S. Kearsarge evidences opportunity.

The possession of Airborne Mine Neutralization System evidences means.

Statements of the president and Victoria Nuland evidence motive.

The three combined suggest American guilt.

But opportunity, means and motive, even combined, are simply not sufficient proof of guilt. More is needed: forensic physical evidence, whistleblower, admission of guilt confession etc., documentary evidence, etc.

The stakes are too high , the evidence insufficient for sweeping conclusions that we have read on this thread: "There’s no question that the US was behind the destruction of these pipelines, you’d have to be a fool to believe otherwise."


45 posted on 10/01/2022 7:59:03 AM PDT by nathanbedford (Attack, repeat, attack! - Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford
The "investigation" will be carried out by the perpetrators.

This is the FBI investigating what went wrong at Waco.


46 posted on 10/01/2022 8:01:54 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: PK1991

It’s hardly curious which side did it?

Woke globalist inc or non woke imperial Russian Putin

Question is only which woke globalist inc asset operators pulled it off

SEALS

SAS

polish frogmen

There’s a few other players possible even contractors


47 posted on 10/01/2022 8:01:57 AM PDT by wardaddy (Sound and Fury Republic)
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To: cranked

Turkey loves this special military operation

They are profiting politically from both sides


48 posted on 10/01/2022 8:03:09 AM PDT by wardaddy (Sound and Fury Republic)
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To: nathanbedford

Link takes you to the Seapower article in the image above.
Seapower is the official publication of the U.S. Navy League.

“BALTOPS 22: A Perfect Opportunity for Research and Testing New Technology”

[In my olden days, this was known as “Cover For Action.”]

https://seapowermagazine.org/baltops-22-a-perfect-opportunity-for-research-and-resting-new-technology/

BALTIC SEA — A significant focus of BALTOPS every year is the demonstration of NATO mine hunting capabilities, and this year the U.S. Navy continues to use the exercise as an opportunity to test emerging technology, U.S. Naval Forces Europe-Africa Public Affairs said June 14.

In support of BALTOPS, U.S. Navy 6th Fleet partnered with U.S. Navy research and warfare centers to bring the latest advancements in unmanned underwater vehicle mine hunting technology to the Baltic Sea to demonstrate the vehicle’s effectiveness in operational scenarios.

Experimentation was conducted off the coast of Bornholm, Denmark, with participants from Naval Information Warfare Center Pacific, Naval Undersea Warfare Center Newport, and Mine Warfare Readiness and Effectiveness Measuring all under the direction of U.S. 6th Fleet Task Force 68.

BALTOPS is an ideal location for conducting mine hunting experimentation due to the region’s unique environmental conductions such as low salinity and varying bottom types. It is also critical to evaluate emerging mine hunting UUV technology in the Baltic due to its applicability with allied and partner nations. This year experimentation was focused on UUV navigation, teaming operations, and improvements in acoustic communications all while collecting critical environmental data sets to advance the automatic target recognition algorithms for mine detection.

“In prior BALTOPS we demonstrated advanced capabilities to detect, reacquire and collect images of mine contacts, and transfer those images in near real-time to operators through the use of a specialized Office of Naval Research UUV,” said Anthony Constable, Office of Naval Research science advisor to U.S. 6th Fleet. “This year, through the work of NIWC Pacific and NUWC Newport, we are showing that this capability can be integrated into programs of record by executing complex multi-vehicle UUV missions with modified U.S. Navy fleet assets.”
[more at link]


49 posted on 10/01/2022 8:04:10 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: PK1991

Who Dun It?

Crappy Pants


50 posted on 10/01/2022 8:04:12 AM PDT by eyedigress (Trump is my President!)
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To: wardaddy

Please read the entire thread.


51 posted on 10/01/2022 8:04:36 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: wardaddy

[I come in at 24]


52 posted on 10/01/2022 8:05:12 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee
The "investigation" will be carried out by the perpetrators.

Exclusively?


53 posted on 10/01/2022 8:06:06 AM PDT by nathanbedford (Attack, repeat, attack! - Bull Halsey)
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To: PK1991

I think the globalist forces did it as a payback for referendums and seeing Putin intends to finish the ground war and take eastern Ukraine and stop his limited war approach which has dragged on

It’s reckless but Germany who it harms as well had to know I’d think

The same folks pushing trannies on our school kids are formulating this war on Putin and co

Think about that for a second

Feel secure?


54 posted on 10/01/2022 8:06:53 AM PDT by wardaddy (Sound and Fury Republic)
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To: wardaddy

As is China.

They buy cheap Russian oil and gas then turn around, bump the prices and sell to energy hungry Europeans, etc.


55 posted on 10/01/2022 8:08:15 AM PDT by cranked
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To: nathanbedford

Well, Russia has already been ruled out of participating in the investigation.

It will be dominated by ... who dominates NATO?

Not Denmark. Who?

The big dog will investigate, with a few tokens along for show.

It will be the FBI investigating Waco.

The conclusion has already been written: RUSSIA!


56 posted on 10/01/2022 8:09:43 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: PK1991

My head is spinning like a roomful of bright elusive butterflies. I’m trying to figure out if this whole nordstream affair (as described here) is byzantine or kafkaesque.

Anyway, the situation was already complicated; but this commentary puts “complicated” to shame. You sure as hell can’t tell the players w/o a program (Groucho: “And you can’t tell ‘em much even WITH a program” [taps cigar]).


57 posted on 10/01/2022 8:11:33 AM PDT by Migraine ( )
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To: Travis McGee

Thanks for all the info Matt. Your post here and on Gab are invaluable


58 posted on 10/01/2022 8:12:06 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: wardaddy

59 posted on 10/01/2022 8:15:32 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee
In the run-up to the Iraq war we were told by the UN investigators that they found no evidence of nukes in Iraq.

Our CIA, evidently, believed otherwise and convinced Powell that there were weapons of mass destruction. He in turn convinced most of us. He was wrong, he did not have the goods. He had every good argument except the goods, i.e. actual proof. So we went to war on a false premise.

I hope neither we nor Russia goes to (nuclear) war on a false premise.


60 posted on 10/01/2022 8:16:09 AM PDT by nathanbedford (Attack, repeat, attack! - Bull Halsey)
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