Posted on 09/30/2022 7:51:00 AM PDT by elpadre
Putin talked about opening Nordstream 2, and both pipelines were blown up.
Biden talked about blowing them up. Did he follow through?
Who actually paid for those pipelines?
Russians or Germans?
excerpted:
“..Disabling NS and NS2 represents the definitive closure of any possibility of a German-Russia deal on gas supplies, with the added benefit of relegating Germany to the lowly status of absolute US vassal...”
Per the article
“That was a sophisticated operation, carried out in stealth in the shallow depth of the Danish straits. That would in principle rule out submarines (ships entering the Baltic are limited to a draught of 15 meters). As for prospective “invisible” vessels, these could only loiter around with permission from Copenhagen – as the waters around Borholm are crammed with sensors, reflecting fear of incursion by Russian submarines.”
Not true as Russia can easily send subs from their ports.
Excerpt:
“The Big Picture reveals the collective West in absolute panic, with Atlanticist “elites” willing to resort to anything – outrageous lies, assassinations, terrorism, sabotage, all out financial war, support to neo-Nazis – to prevent their descent into a geopolitical and geoeconomic abyss.
Disabling NS and NS2 represents the definitive closure of any possibility of a German-Russia deal on gas supplies, with the added benefit of relegating Germany to the lowly status of absolute US vassal.
So that brings us to the key question of which Western intel apparatus designed the sabotage. Prime candidates are of course CIA and MI6 – with Poland set up as the fall guy and Denmark playing a very dodgy part: it’s impossible that Copenhagen was not at least “briefed” on the intel.
Prescient as ever, as early as in April 2021 Russians were asking questions about the military security of Nord Stream.
The crucial vector is that we may be facing the case of a EU/NATO member involved in an act of sabotage against the number one EU/NATO economy. That’s a casus belli. Outside of the appalling mediocrity and cowardice of the current administration in Berlin, it’s clear that the BND – German intel – as well as the German Navy and informed industrialists sooner or later will do the math.
This was far from an isolated attack. On September 22 there was an attempt against Turkish Stream by Kiev saboteurs. The day before, naval drones with English language IDs were found in Crimea, suspected of being part of the plot. Add to it US helicopters overflying the future sabotage nodes weeks ago; a UK “research” vessel loitering in Danish waters since mid-September; and NATO tweeting about the testing of “new unmanned systems at sea” on the same day of the sabotage.”
“Not true as Russia can easily send subs from their ports.”
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You need to excerpt the whole paragraph, un-freakin’-believable:
“As for prospective “invisible” vessels, these could only loiter around with permission from Copenhagen – as the waters around Borholm are crammed with sensors, reflecting fear of incursion by Russian submarines.”
“Not true as Russia can easily send subs from their ports.”
I think he was referring to the surveillance. “... waters around Borholm are crammed with sensors, reflecting fear of incursion by Russian submarines.”
Gazprom paid half the cost of building Nord Stream 2.
The remainder of the $11 billion pipeline project was apparently financed by British oil and gas major Shell, Austria's OMV, France's Engie, Germany's Uniper and Norway's Wintershall DEA.
Russia would have no reason to sabotage the pipelines. They could always just turn off the taps - which they did, flaring a bunch of natural gas. The pipelines existence offered the possibility that the Germans would cave as things get bad in the Winter. Now they are gone. The Germans now can’t cave in even if their voters want them to.
Cui Bono? I think we all know the answer and it ain’t Russia.
There was the USN drill in the area in June. Before the incident there was a USN ship and launched a helicopter which flew exactly where the explosions took place.
Correct - that was BALTOPS22
That link is a very interesting read.
LOL! That’s a good one?
The last few paragraphs of the article are very interesting and worth reading.
Bannon touched on some of this yesterday, Germany/Europe becoming a vassal state of the US.
We are in a World War being fought using energy as the fulcrum. Attacking energy is easy, there are supply lines all over the world that are unprotected.
And the USN carries underwater drones on ships like the USS Kearsarge.
True. And I'm not being sarcastic when I say 'just like WW2'. The central dynamic of that war concerned the control of Oil.
Britain & France denied Germany access to Oil from the Americas and also denied Germany access to the east (by giving an ultimatum on Poland)
The war kicked off. Poland fell, France fell, Britain didn't- and suddenly Hitler had to take the Caucusus in a few months or lose the war.
He tried his murderous best but he couldn't do it.
The youtube historian ‘TIK’ has an excellent video on the subject.
Also this from 2012: Anand Toprani ‘Oil and Grand Strategy: Great Britain and Germany, 1918—1941’. Avoid the 1st few minutes: it's mostly audio of people chewing.
Lastly: a very accessible video on the same subject from 2018: ‘Oil - Hitler’s Only Chance to Win the War? - WW2 Special’
Hope this proves helpful
Caucusus => Caucasus
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