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Attack On Europe: Documenting Russian Equipment Losses During The 2022 Russian Invasion Of Ukraine
ORYX ^ | Since February 24, 2022 and daily | ORYX

Posted on 09/22/2022 6:28:09 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas

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To: PIF

Putin has resorted to the long game. so this is going to be a long war. His calculations are that the economic disruptions around the world but most especially in Europe are going to turn catastrophic. At the same time, republicans in the USA are likely to win the house and maybe the senate. the chances are great that they will cut off funding to the Ukrainians.

Unless someone like the Norwegians step up and fund the Ukranians through their trillion dollar trust fund—the weapons flow to Ukraine will slow to a trickle.

In a long war, it doesn’t really matter if the Ukranians take back all their lost lands. Russia will not sue for peace. So the battle continues.

But judging by other commentators above on the state of the russian army, the russian way of war leaves a lot to be desired. They’re not too bright. They don’t have the US military around to help them think. Their troops are being set up to fail.

So yeah, if the Ukes could streamline their economy and eliminate their world famous corruption—that would give them a fighting chance in the long game. If they could create a military force that could do the job on the cheap—(like buying 10k small drones to swarm the russian lines and punch 10 mile wide holes in the russian line) that would be good too.

necessity is the mother of invention. wars accelerate change.

But as of now. There is no end game. This is an endless war. The destruction of Ukraine will continue apace as well as the destruction of the russian army.

Agree with your comment that now time is on the Russian’s side.

the problems involved


41 posted on 09/22/2022 8:33:50 AM PDT by ckilmer (qui)
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To: ckilmer

This is Japan in Manchuria in 1931.


42 posted on 09/22/2022 8:35:36 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

do you know how rapidly the russian factories can produce tanks?


43 posted on 09/22/2022 8:38:38 AM PDT by ckilmer (qui)
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To: Kazan
A different narrative is that the Russian troops intentionally withdrew from the region to raise Russian calls for an escalation of the war. The Izium withdrawal was thus probably a mere catalyst for 'starting in earnest':

Thanks for posting that. I am finally starting to understand the genius of the Russian military and government. Today I learned that It is a good military tactic to have your army running away and leaving their weapons, ammunition, and armored vehicles behind. Who knew that the best way to "intentionally withdraw" was to just run in a panic.

44 posted on 09/22/2022 8:45:49 AM PDT by freeandfreezing (Do I need the sarcasm tag?)
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To: PIF; All

I’m taking great delight in see the RuZZians fight over the draft.

https://mobile.twitter.com/antiputler_news/status/1572946264660275201


45 posted on 09/22/2022 8:48:00 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (The Only Good RuZZian is a Dead RuZZian)
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To: ckilmer

“Europe are going to turn catastrophic” - Wrong. Maybe light rationing in some countries, but EU will survive the winter.

“republicans in the USA are likely to win the house and maybe the senate. the chances are great that they will cut off funding to the Ukrainians.” - Wrong. There is overwhelming bi-partisan support for Ukraine weapons.


46 posted on 09/22/2022 8:52:36 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (The Only Good RuZZian is a Dead RuZZian)
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To: ckilmer

200-250 per year prior to the war, but with sanctions RuZZia may have trouble getting parts to produce them (computer chips, specialized parts)


47 posted on 09/22/2022 8:53:58 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (The Only Good RuZZian is a Dead RuZZian)
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To: freeandfreezing

“Do I need the sarcasm tag?”

Nope. Got it without the tag.


48 posted on 09/22/2022 8:55:02 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (The Only Good RuZZian is a Dead RuZZian)
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To: DannyTN
I wish we understood the artillery numbers better.

The Russian army has a large inventory of artillery cannons. However the limiting factor for their use of them is how effectively they can supply the artillery teams with ammunition.

Hitting the ammunition depots and the trucks makes the artillery cannons useless.

49 posted on 09/22/2022 8:56:35 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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Draft ‘going according to plan’?

“local residents blocked the federal highway near Babayurt (Dagestan)”

https://mobile.twitter.com/antiputler_news/status/1572944213263941638


50 posted on 09/22/2022 9:00:28 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (The Only Good RuZZian is a Dead RuZZian)
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Nothing like the smell of a burning helo in the morning.

“A Russian Ka-52 attack helicopter was shot down today in #Zaporizhzhia Oblast by the Ukrainian National Guard, apparently using a 9K38 Igla MANPADS.

It manages to land, whilst burning heavily- whilst the crew may have survived, the airframe will not.”

https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1572975784720998404


51 posted on 09/22/2022 9:22:00 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (The Only Good RuZZian is a Dead RuZZian)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

agree the problem is not with natural gas or getting cold or rationing.

the problem is the dollar.

there is a deeper game afoot. It has to do with shifting the world away from the dollar as the reserve currency.

right now the US fed is raising interest rates to fight against inflation.

that forces up the price of the dollar against other country currencies—especially europe and japan. that means their interest payments on their debt goes much higher. somewhere some big financial institutions are going to break. Likely that will be in europe.

that will create a system shock.

the russian’s are actually in better shape financially than the west.

Judging by what I’ve read on this thread—the russians will not be able to field their army with modern weapons after another six months or so. their weapons will be used up and they won’t be able to get the high tech parts from the west they need to make new weapons.

On the other hand —the chances of funding from the USA for Ukraine will decline if the republicans take control of the congress in november as expected.

so the greatest liklihood at this moment is that after the first of the year the arms flow to ukraine will slow to a trickle—unless more local players—like the deep pocketed norweigens step up.

the chief danger for both the ukrainians and the russians is that next year both will run out of weapons.


52 posted on 09/22/2022 9:25:01 AM PDT by ckilmer (qui)
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To: PIF; All

More T62s heading to the front.

“A new batch of cold-war era T62-M tanks (MY1983) for newly mobilized Russian soldiers is on its way to Ukraine. Photo taken on Sep. 11 in Millerovo, Rostov region”

https://twitter.com/kromark/status/1572547554675687428


53 posted on 09/22/2022 9:32:51 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (The Only Good RuZZian is a Dead RuZZian)
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“Anonymous hackers hacked into the website of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and leaked the data of 305,925 people who are likely to be mobilized in the first of three waves of mobilization.”

https://mobile.twitter.com/antiputler_news/status/1572976377527422976


54 posted on 09/22/2022 9:40:53 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (The Only Good RuZZian is a Dead RuZZian)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

Wrong. There is overwhelming bi-partisan support for Ukraine weapons.

That’s true at this moment.

But in the future not so much. Different players are coming into the new congress.


55 posted on 09/22/2022 9:52:09 AM PDT by ckilmer (qui)
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To: dfwgator

This is Japan in Manchuria in 1931.

In your analogy is Russia Japan and Ukraine Manchuria?


56 posted on 09/22/2022 9:53:21 AM PDT by ckilmer (qui)
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To: ckilmer

Yep.

It may not start the conflaguration, but it starts putting the wheels in motion.


57 posted on 09/22/2022 9:54:13 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: DannyTN; SpeedyInTexas

“I strongly suspect that ORYX is understating the artillery losses” (relative to tank losses)

That would make sense, because artillery generally is so much further behind Russian lines, and inherently more difficult to confirm.


58 posted on 09/22/2022 10:24:14 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: dfwgator

I’m not sure that Manchuria and Japan are the right analogy since Japan was technologically superior to Manchuria.

But agree that the wheels are in motion.


59 posted on 09/22/2022 10:38:14 AM PDT by ckilmer (qui)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

“....CIA/MI6 fronts like ORYX, Bellingcat, and the war-mongering Kagan family propaganda mill The Institute for the Study of War have pumped out...”


60 posted on 09/22/2022 10:42:32 AM PDT by cranked
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