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To: Its All Over Except ...; All
"emough gas for all out of thin air."

It doesn't come out of thin air. Nat gas will come from pipeline, LNG and storage plus conservation.

Plus I think people over emphasize nat gas. Nat Gas only makes up 14.6% of Germany's electricity production.

Heating is where Germany needs to conserve. Their plan is clear, reduce nat gas usage towards electricity generation to save the nat gas for heating. They are doing this by burning coal and oil for electricty.


12 posted on 09/14/2022 3:51:42 PM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (The Only Good RuZZian is a Dead RuZZian)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

Post #14.


15 posted on 09/14/2022 4:37:09 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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To: SpeedyInTexas

According to official and government statistics, Germany produces far less from renewables:

https://www.destatis.de/DE/Themen/Branchen-Unternehmen/Energie/Erzeugung/_inhalt.html (they are over exaggerating and adding to the share of renewables)

But it gets worse! A lot worse!!!

Most your power isn’t used running your cell phone or LED desk light where you can make memes on how the Germans have all this green power.

That’s electric energy production.

That’s NOT all power, since you have transportation where it’s overwhelming fossil fuels.

That also does not even include the majority of heating (a major portion of the power) which is heating oil or gas which is used directly for heating and not used to make electricity.

https://www.vattenfall.de/infowelt-energie/heizungsmarkt-deutschland-analysiert

So... You add a little in the production side, and you exclude TWO of the major areas where most the power is used, i.e. transportation and heating and then you end up with a nice but entirely distorted pie chart that looks pretty impressive. Roughly 28-31% of your total power is used for transportation and in the home a whopping 60+% is used for heating and air conditioning.

The Germans are NOT lying about any of this. They are very open about it. For example, in this website they show that the 41% renewable stat used to show how the Germans use so much green power is for electricity production alone and excluding transportation and heating.

https://www.umweltbundesamt.de/themen/klima-energie/erneuerbare-energien/erneuerbare-energien-in-zahlen

The problem is that for heating green sources only accounts for about 16% and in transportation ~6.8% and that STILL includes biomass which still produces CO2. “Biomasse,” you might as well be burning wood! It’s a nice name given for organics used to make fuel but these still produce CO2 and it becomes an accounting game where they are counted as green/renewable sources and folks see them as something other than what they are.

https://www.umweltbundesamt.de/sites/default/files/medien/372/bilder/energiebereitstellung_aus_ee_03-2022.png

Not entirely true, but it looks good.


25 posted on 09/15/2022 11:50:02 PM PDT by Red6
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