Posted on 09/13/2022 10:45:35 AM PDT by bitt
NEW: Depositions of Obama IRS Officials Detail Knowledge of Tea Party Targeting
We have been at the forefront in uncovering the Obama IRS scandal that showed the agency’s abuse of conservative Americans and organizations in the run-up to the 2012 election. We’re still learning the details of their conspiracy.
We have just received previously sealed court documents, including depositions of IRS officials Lois Lerner, the former director of the Exempt Organizations Unit of the Internal Revenue Service (IRS), and Holly Paz, her top aide and former IRS director of Office of Rulings and Agreements, which show they knew most Tea Party organizations were legally entitled to tax-exempt status.
The release comes in the December 2017 amicus curiae brief (friend of the court) we filed in NorCal Tea Party Patriots, et al. v. The Internal Revenue Service, et al. (No. 1:13-cv-00341). We argued that the documents we sought may shed light on government misconduct, and the shielding of internal government deliberations does not serve the public’s interest.
Lerner’s and Paz’s depositions were sealed by Judge Barrett in April 2017, after Lerner’s and Paz’s lawyers claimed the two officials were receiving threats. The court finally ordered the unsealing of the depositions four years after the plaintiffs requested the depositions be unsealed and only after the plaintiffs filed for a writ of mandamus to force action in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit.
The sworn depositions were given in 2017 by Lerner and Paz. In the newly unsealed deposition transcripts, the two IRS officials repeatedly have memory lapses and regularly plead ignorance of the fundamental matters in question.
The unsealed Lerner and Paz deposition transcripts reveal through sworn testimony the bureaucratic tangle created by the Obama IRS to single out, delay and deny the processing of conservative, especially Tea Party non-profit groups’ applications for tax-exempt status and to disclose their donors’ names. At the same time, Paz admits under questioning that she knew from the beginning there was not sufficient legal basis to deny most of the targeted groups tax exempt status:
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No shit.
“She should have been prosecuted to the full extent of the law...”
She should have, but Eric Holder wasn’t going to do it, and by the time Republicans got into power, they did the stupid thing like they always do and said “let’s just move forward and not dwell on the past”.
Devin Nunes just retruthed a Rowen Scarborough @ TS:
” Guess what? TRUMP in 2018, cited a *Supreme Court* case to UNILATERALLY DECLASSIFY the Devin Nunes *Memo* that uncovered the FBI ‘Russiagate abuses, 3 years later, Trump used the same SC OPINION to DECLASSIFY the MaraLago papers seized by the FBI. “
— See story at washingtontimes.com/news/2022
Biden and his DOJ/FBI cronies over reached one too many times.
sounds good rita.
I’ll check it out
Saw the headline and wondered, “Which IRS scandal?”
The GOP congress should put into place the REMOVAL OF STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS for investigating government fraud.
They have the power to delay and delay and delay until it is beyond repair
Reading the JW page, a lot seems currently familiar. The overwhelming impression I got from the present, the Trump presidency and this IRS travesty, is that the fed govt bureaucrats believe that they rule this country, and anyone who still believes in the Constitution is in danger in any way our rulers can effect. JW documents reveal that the IRS, DoJ and FBI were making plans to criminalize patriotic behavior and put 'anti-government' people in prison - including Tea Party families.
Obama still claims that he has the most scandal free administration in American history.
Citizens are now considered serfs and should just shut up and obey... AND don't turn to your Congressperson. Elections as a correction are also seriously in question - and anyone questioning elections is in increased danger.
Up {with} the Republic!
I ain't worried...and I've had previous issues with the IRS.
Most of the people I talked to were dumb asses.....
The “FAIR” tax is stupid, and most of its proponents are A$$HOLES.
There is nothing ‘FAIR” about it.
FLAT TAX achieves the same STATED result, but more simply and effectively.
And the Flat Tax does not rely on impossible to comprehend things like “tax-inclusive” pricing (to hide the amount of tax), an incredibly high and hidden rate of 27%, and a ‘pre-bate’ for low income earners- which is nothing but a vote buying mechanism for Democrat politicians (”I’ll increase the pre-bate” “No, I’ll increase the pre-bate MORE”)
FLAT TAX. Or the 9-9-9 plan (which is a flat tax, but fools stupid people into believing corporations pay taxes)
What ‘tax plan’are you calling the ‘Fair Tax’?
Precisely why I have more contempt and loathing for the GOP than I do democRATs.
Yes. This is it
There is an actual tax plan called ‘The FAIR Tax”
It is 27% at the cash register, but the tax is hidden by using a ‘tax inclusive’ method. (you only see the price with tax included, it’s hard to tell what the tax is)
I have tried to argue with ‘fair tax’ proponents that you never want to hide the tax, and ‘tax inclusive’ is not how sales tax is added now. They always try to give some convoluted argument an how much better ‘tax inclusive’ is. It’s like liberal zealotry.
I’ve never seen ‘national sales tax’ proposals with a rate as high as 27%.
Looking at a receipt on my desk I see state taxes listed so it’s not exactly hidden. On gas pumps I see listed all the taxes from local to state again not hidden. It’s not my fault that people don’t pay any attention to it. It seems easy with today’s technology to add another line on the printed receipt for federal taxes. If you want to talk about a ‘hidden tax’, paycheck withholding is a prime example. To me the only danger in a national sales tax is how easily it could turn into a ‘value added tax’ - a VAT. I’ve seen study after study that a national sales tax would be more economically beneficial since it only taxes economic activity - transactions that might involve the power of the state to enforce. One of its most positive features would be in capital formation; not taxing wealth would be a big plus in building investment capital. Increasing investment capital is something we desperately need. The problem I see there is defining and tracking ‘transactions’ and how it is reflected in the final point-of-sale price. I could go on but I won’t.
I am not hostile at all to flat tax proposals. It’s better than what we have now. However, didn’t the income tax essentially start out as a flat tax? Never be more that 5% or something at the highest incomes level. Now look at it!
you’ve clearly missed ALL of my points, then.
What points?
Mostly I saw assertions with no reasons.
I described the FAIR tax proposals I have seen.
You must not have heard of the “FAIR tax” (its actual name)
The items I described are the items contained within it. I don’t know what you mean about ‘reasons’.
Well, oh LEARNED one, tell us what YOU would prefer. Perhaps to hang in there with Karl’s “heavy, progressive income tax”?
Share with us, oh great one!
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