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Vaccines are taking an average of 5 months to kill people == Steve Kirsch
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Posted on 09/01/2022 1:32:33 AM PDT by dennisw

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To: SecAmndmt

The vax shills are acting like receiving the Covid vax is the natural order for life and living until suddenly one day a bunch of conspiracy theorists showed up and started questioning something people had been safely doing for thousands of years until a bunch of kooks decided it was not safe after all.

In reality, the natural order of things is to let your immune system take care of immunity and do what you can to prevent the illness from taking a bad turn. The vax is a manufactured bioweapon imposed on us under duress by those who do not have our best interests at heart.


341 posted on 09/02/2022 7:39:49 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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Big PHarma


342 posted on 09/02/2022 7:40:31 AM PDT by 444Flyer (John 3, Revelation 20, Joshua 24:15, 1 Kings 18:16-39, Pick a side...)
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To: Bikkuri

Wanna zot everyone who disagrees with you, eh? How fascist of you. How anti-First Amendment. How against the spirit of FR.

And there I was, just the other day, defending and protecting one of your fellow Q followers, when many (including Q followers themselves) were calling for him to be zotted and posting Viking kitties:

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/4088543/posts?page=63#63


343 posted on 09/02/2022 7:50:43 AM PDT by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: CatHerd
And there I was, just the other day, defending and protecting one of your fellow Q followers, when many (including Q followers themselves) were calling for him to be zotted and posting Viking kitties:

Aren't you the noble noob.

Show us your worth. Bring me a sammich.


344 posted on 09/02/2022 8:11:22 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: 444Flyer

BTTT


345 posted on 09/02/2022 8:41:48 AM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12)
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To: bagster; grey_whiskers; ransomnote; metmom; tatown

Interesting how some of the $hot $hills - who spend much of their time trolling the foremost conservative forum....PRIMARILY on $hot warning threads - had absolutely NOTHING to say about last night’s speech, by their Dear Leader, declaring war on Americans, yet...plenty of time to continue pu$hing their CDC mantras.

🤔

Telling, no?


346 posted on 09/02/2022 8:47:45 AM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12)
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To: Jane Long
Telling, no?

Telling, yes.

#BackAtTheHomeOffice


347 posted on 09/02/2022 8:51:03 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: metmom

The natural order is to you our God given sense and discern the truth. We have been medicinally treating our selves since the dawn of time. God has given us the ability to create. It is the ability too create and innovate in which we see made in His image. So to say we shouldn’t learn adapt and create is antithetical to Gods account of creation.

That being said, the gross and definitive pronouncements you and others make is quite a barrier. If we discern what is actually happening you are correct the vaccine didn’t prevent spread and infection. Fair enough. We have the data set. Taking that line of argument no one can disagree. However when overblown to its evil. Everyone who disagrees is a $hill and demonizing pushback on quest of the truth is detrimental to the points you are arguing.

Because it becomes over the top nonsense. Far bette to discern the truth though adversarial debate in the classic sense than to demonize all those who are not in lockstep.

Because of the marriage to the ideas of IVM and HCQ, it became impossible to identify the actual solution. Monoclonal are superior treatment. Everyone agrees with that including those you openly source. What is lost is that high risk exposure could also receive these as prophylaxis. Essentially a 90 more traditional vaccine.

Because Biden ripped them out of the southeast and transferred them to blue states and reduced manufacturing is the story.

Anyway it’s the unrelenting false judgments and being called a liar every day by you an others that is just completely unreasonable as it not particular kind or gentle. My witness hasn’t been great through some of my frustrations. I will make up for this as it’s my understanding of the faith. I would hope as members of the faith that all would work on projecting love. While no doing not intentional, perhaps all of us should reflect on the fruit we bear in our interactions with each other.


348 posted on 09/02/2022 8:57:26 AM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: gas_dr
You should have posted this long ago.

It still doesn't explain why so many of those who back-handedly support the shots ("praising with faint damns") follow the approach of the Center for Countering Digital Hate, down to adapting the terminology and targets ("dirty dozen"/"disinformation dozen") and emphasize first, discrediting anyone opposed to the clotshots,

first by

a) insisting that ALL claims against the shots, are necessarily intertwined, so that accepting or considering any of the claims, necessarily means that one must believe all the most radical/ridiculous claims, such as 5G/mind control

b) trying to personally discredit all those opposed to the shots, either by citing odd personal beliefs, citing personal failed treatments, or any issues with accreditation / licensure / affiliation -- and acting that such ad hominem attacks, instead of serving only as a caution, NECESSARILY repudiate ALL of that person's claims and data in toto, now and forever.

c) insisting that those pushing against the clots are hacks getting rich off of it, while ignoring the tens of billions racked up by Pfizer/Moderna

...while ignoring the thumb on the scales of the Pfizer trials (honest companies do not have a track record of tens of billions in fines / penalties since, oh, call it the year 2000, and then turn around and try to have their internal safety studies on an novel technology sealed for 75 years), as well as the renewed push for Omicron shots (170 million doses ordered) which has only been tested on mice, not humans; and reportedly only on *EIGHT* mice.

If you'd give an honest explanation of the points above, in the same vein as your post this is replying too, you'd be a taken for a Pfauci-bot a LOT less.

349 posted on 09/02/2022 8:59:52 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

grey_whiskers wrote: “What I posted, IS accurate information: it contains screenshots of emails, from government officials under the Dementia Joe administration writing to people working at social media companies, discussing how to get rid of information against the administration’s preferred narrative.”

You’re assuming that this information is. in fact, correct.
What if the ‘preferred narrative’ is the correct narrative?
So far, the only information you’ve provided is from a bunch of crackpot conspiracy kooks.

I get the impression, that most of the anti-vaxxer narrative isn’t against the vaccines so much as it is an anti-government narrative.

The main problem with that is this: Trump developed the vaccines so if you’re attacking the government, you are attacking Trump.


350 posted on 09/02/2022 9:22:00 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke
You're lying. And, note the propaganda technique on your part. So far, the only information you’ve provided is from a bunch of crackpot conspiracy kooks.

A Lawsuit in progress from multiple US states' Attorneys General is not a bunch of kooks.

Sod off, Troll.

351 posted on 09/02/2022 9:26:53 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

grey_whiskers wrote: “A Lawsuit in progress from multiple US states’ Attorneys General is not a bunch of kooks.”

Steve Kirsch, Robert Malone, Mercola, etc., are a bunch of kooks.


352 posted on 09/02/2022 9:52:04 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke; Jane Long; bagster; ransomnote
A nice troll attempt at a conversational fork (like the chess move): you wanted me to either address the "only information I've provided" and leave the secondary slur (itself multi-layered) about Kirsch, Malone, Mercola alone; or get caught up in a secondary flame war about Kirsch, Malone, Mercola alone, and leave unrefuted the idea I've only been posting from kooks.

Sod off, troll, I'll refute both.

You said in post 350, talking about me: "So far, the only information you’ve provided is from a bunch of crackpot conspiracy kooks.

You were replying to my post 337.
That was in response to your post 328.
Your post 328 was replying to my post 271.
Post 271 quoted the litigation between the Attorneys General of Missouri and several other states, talking about 45 US govt. officials coordinating with social media to censor stuff they didn't like.

So you're openly lying through your foul teeth about "the only information I've provided" being from "a bunch of crackpot conspiracy kooks" : I provided information from state attorneys general.

And your attack on Kirschk, Malone, and Mercola is false and itself the kind of misinformation and "without evidence" which you attack everyone else with.

As well as linking legitimate researchers to kooks (conveniently not naming them, allowing you to fill in the name of anyone you want later), making the false charge that to accept the presentation of anyone on the list, compels a person to defend all of them.

Sod Off, Lying Troll.

353 posted on 09/02/2022 10:05:09 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

The $hills most likely get paid (bonuses?), by the reply.

I guess the EBT card was recently refilled, for some.

Besides, who, here - other than died on the wool lefty paid trolls - would begin to believe a whopper as egregious as … Steve Kirsch, Robert Malone, Mercola, etc., are a bunch of kooks?

Everyone (normies, anyway) see who the real, smear merchant looks are. 😉


354 posted on 09/02/2022 10:32:11 AM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12)
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To: grey_whiskers

Sir, I have done just that consistently. And consistently I have been called every name in the book by rote and without consideration. So in the dark days I’d delta when it was bad as many of us have ever seen to be openly called a liar by some who have no idea what they are talking about that I wasnt what I say I am was horrendous. Fine don’t believe me, but the attacks were malignant and often said real doctors like Malone and McCullough are saving lives.

So instead of simply saying what their opinion was it became a crusade complete with the labels. Sir, I only swung back when I had been unjustly bludgeoned. That being said I have learned that it doesn’t have to be over the top. All I can do is explain my thoughts and what I see But to have JL and RN perpetually screech the same old attacks that are just things they can or can or prove is the ultimate in dishonest debate.

So all I can do is present the facts. And yes in those days 13 months ago I didn’t really care what I was being called. I needed the info out there. My freepmail is loaded with thank yous and support for getting the info out there. That is what kept me going.

So I am resolved to just lay out the facts. Is people wish to attack me for lying or sociopathy so be it. I know in the end the truth and I also know in the end I know it’s their credibility on full display to say things they simply cannot prove. I’d they did they would break the rules here but they would also find out every word I have said is true

Anyway thank you for your response. I continue to keep you in my thoughts and prayers.


355 posted on 09/02/2022 10:55:42 AM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: DugwayDuke; Jane Long
What if the ‘preferred narrative’ is the correct narrative?

And....he reveals himself.

#GovernmentMan

356 posted on 09/02/2022 11:13:28 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: gas_dr
I had not seen your, hmm, thoughts or philosophy laid out concisely until your post #326. I fear I find your reply to me unclear: "Sir, I have done just that consistently. And consistently I have been called every name in the book by rote and without consideration."

You have done *what* consistently?

That's not a cheap shot; it's genuine confusion on my part, the word "that" is an indefinite pronoun, so I don't know which portion of my response you say you've been doing consistently.

For the rest: it would help clarify and tone down things greatly, if you would explicitly / specifically address what I labeled points a), b), and c) in my post #349 to you, individually.

And if, given the flame wars, you'd rather do it to me via FReepmail than on open thread, that's fine and no accusations of malfeasance / bad faith for doing so.

FReegards.

357 posted on 09/02/2022 11:14:43 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

So, IYO, any attempt by the government to provide accurate information on government programs and policies is ‘censorship’?


358 posted on 09/02/2022 12:25:42 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke
You're desperately hoping to distract and mislead. Shove it up your Biden, troll.
359 posted on 09/02/2022 12:46:26 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Jane Long

BTTT!


360 posted on 09/02/2022 1:31:33 PM PDT by 444Flyer (John 3, Revelation 20, Joshua 24:15, 1 Kings 18:16-39, Pick a side...)
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