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How the Founders' original design would affect the US Senate
American Thinker ^ | August 28, 2022 | J.H. Capron

Posted on 08/28/2022 11:01:14 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy

There have been many details exposed over the last two years about how our government at all levels is not what we thought it was, and none of what we're hearing bodes well for this republic.

Let's focus on one issue: the U.S. Senate. It's clearer than it has ever been that it's just a collection of elected officials, behaving as if they're independent actors with no restraint. It's as if they have no allegiance to anyone. The citizens of their respective states matter not, except once every six years, when they play the "how can I fool them again" game. They're a law unto themselves. Oh, and the welfare of their respective states? They couldn't care less.

How did this come about? The 17th Amendment.

Nineteen thirteen was a terrible year for our republic. It delivered a double–constitutional body blow: first, imposing a federal income tax — the 16th Amendment — and then the general election of U.S. senators — the 17th Amendment.

Prior to the 17th Amendment, state legislatures appointed senators. Each state had its own process for this. The senators were the gating mechanism against a House of Representatives that had a penchant toward foolishness. Given the fruitcakes we see there today, it's clear the Founding Fathers knew what they were doing.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: 17thamendment; 1913; congress; senate; ussenate
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To: fieldmarshaldj
What you want to happen in expecting better people to serve isn’t going to happen, not with a 17th repeal. What it would require would be something exceptionally dramatic, and that would mean returning our nation to being a Republic.

That "somnething" would be a repeal of the 17th amendment!!!! It's not really that hard to figure out. Are you a progressive?

61 posted on 08/28/2022 4:43:43 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

No, it would require the remainder of my post to improve the quality of our Republic and our elected officials. A large number of the present parasite class of politicians could not be elected if what I proposed were enacted. Repeal of the 17th just empowers the present corrupt class of politicians. We’ve been over this countless times. I wish it were as simple as you make it out to be, but it simply isn’t.


62 posted on 08/28/2022 4:55:39 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
No, it would require the remainder of my post to improve the quality of our Republic and our elected officials.

The remainder of your post is a pipe dream. OTH Repealing the 17th is possible.

63 posted on 08/28/2022 5:01:09 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

It’s not going to happen because empowering politicians is massively unpopular. Actually, you have a better chance of selling it to the left, so that they could guarantee their states would never elect a Republican again.


64 posted on 08/28/2022 5:10:53 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: Jacquerie
I agree. There is only one smart state in the country that has a unicameral system. All states that have bicameral systems are just fooling themselves if they think that somehow their assemblies will represent them differently than their senates.

There are parts of every state with farming or ranching that are necessarily less populated than the urban areas. These areas should be able to be part of an assembly that gives them equal say with regard to those in urban areas.

That was the way it was before that sad and illegitimate SCOTUS decision.

Yes, there was a problem of "rotten boroughs" when the population was really tiny, but not so much anymore. There's a city in LA County called Vernon that was essentially a company town. Libtards sent people in there to live in apartments and overturn the city council that was hand-picked by the companies in Vernon. But who's to say it was a bad idea for a city that was primarily made of up companies with few housing units, to be governed by people selected by the very companies that constituted much of its property?

65 posted on 08/28/2022 5:12:53 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not a tagline.)
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To: Jacquerie

Now, that has nothing to do with it


66 posted on 08/28/2022 5:35:38 PM PDT by dila813
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To: ScaniaBoy

63-37. We could get something done, even with the RINOs dragging their feet.


67 posted on 08/28/2022 11:08:36 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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