Posted on 08/17/2022 11:52:31 AM PDT by Macho MAGA Man
I wonder what happens if a candidate wins the special election but not the election for 2022.
Begich is from a longtime Democrat family. One of his family members once held the seat.
“Begich is from a longtime Democrat family. One of his family members once held the seat.”
I was living in Alaska when Congressman Nick Begich died in a plane crash in ‘72.
Kelly Tshibaka was explaining on Clay & Buck yesterday that this is not true.
His dad?
” Without the RCV, wouldn’t the Democrat have already won? “
Without Rigged Choice Voting there would have been *separate* primaries as there always had been before. Then Palin (or Begich) would have advanced to meet the Democrat 1-on-1 in the general election.
Begich would mop the floor with Peltola. Palin may have been able to win a 1-on-1 matchup but she is so polarizing that it would without any shadow of a doubt have been closer than it would if it was Begich vs. Peltola.
Now under RCV it is forced to be a 3-way race. And if Begich voters hate Palin enough (Alaska will let us know when they’re done “counting” in 2 weeks) that they either left their #2 choice blank or, worse yet, voted for the Eskimo, the liberals who foisted RCV onto the ignorant voters of Alaska in 2020 will celebrate like there’s no tomorrow.
No Dan. See #17.
In a general election with a 2-party primary system, in the general there will be only one Democrat, one Republican on the ballot.
There can be a write-in candidate, but usually they carry small percentages.
In Alaska, a ‘tolerable’ write-in can move ahead past intolerable R and D candidates. This is how it worked for Murkowski previously.
However, if the previously tolerable write-in becomes intolerable, there’s no chance to win in a primary-general system. But an RCV system gives someone like Murkowski a chance.
A primary-general election with write-ins, DOESN’T PREVENT splitting the vote.
But an RCV election GYARANTEES the Vote will be split.
The only system that can guarantee the Vote can’t be split, is a system that allows only the top two candidates on the ballot, with no write-ins. But can’t do that, can’t have it.
You make your vote count in ranked choice BS by making ONLY ONE choice. If you mark the 2,3,4 etc. you are diluting your vote. Mark ONE ONLY on your ranked choice ballot.
If not for the "Indigenous" vote, it would be.
Probably grandfather. Not sure.
Probably grandfather. Not sure.
There was a Mark Begich in politics up there, too.
It varies.
If it’s not true, that’s a good thing AS LONG AS VOTERS ARE AWARE that marking a 2nd choice may result in splitting their vote.
So, it requires education or else it’s a problem.
But printing a warning on a ballot like:
WARNING! MARKING A 2ND CHOICE CAN RESULT IN SPLITTUNG THE VOTE!
defeats the purpose of rank choice voting.
The best reason for rejecting RCV schemes is to become aware of the dark money behind it, pushing it on voters as harmless, when it’s a scam to overcome popular MAGA candidates in favor of the ‘moderate’ candidate.
Thank you both for clarifying the folly of RCV. My brain was working in reverse today.
I can’t find the current results. One rather confusing report from NPR is showing Palin the winner of the special election for Young’s seat with 99% of the votes counted, showing Palin with 27% over Begich with 19.1
It’s confusing because the page is dated June 11, 2022???
NBC is reporting Palin (27%) over Begich (19.1%) in the (R) primary
Sarah should have moved out of that whack state years ago.
NP Dan.
What it’s all about.
So it appears that Palin and Begich are splitting the GOP vote -- which gives each of them fewer votes than the democRAT.
So... the democRAT may very well steal that US House seat from Palin or Begich??
Ranked Choice voting should be outlawed somehow. Doesn't seem legal or Constitutional to me.
How the hell did this sh*t RCV pass in the red state of Alaska?? It passed in Maine, but Maine is a blue state.
Can RCV be reversed somehow in Alaska before 2024?
“Ranked Choice voting should be outlawed somehow. Doesn’t seem legal or Constitutional to me.”
Unfortunately, each state is responsible for it’s own election code, policies, and procedures. It seems that if we ever do convene a Constitutional Convention, which is being discussed, some basic additions could be made, one of which is the requirement of an official photo ID. Same-day/one-day voting. No machines. (It’ll probably never happen, though.)
RCV is completely un-American! Somehow -- at least in the red state of Alaska -- this MUST be reversed, never to return again. If not, it's gonna be foisted on voters in just about every state. It's already worked like a charm in Maine in pushing out Republican Congressional candidates.
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