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To: SeekAndFind

Another propaganda piece from an DC armchair general, which spins things entirely from a MSM, western perspective

What did William Burns - present Director of the CIA, say about this?

Back in 2008, when George W. Bush fatefully strong-armed European members of NATO into promising future membership for Ukraine and Georgia, Burns was warning that the consequences would be dire—but NOT because “Putin’s psychology.”

In a memo to then-Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, Burns wrote, “Ukrainian entry into NATO is the brightest of all red lines for the Russian elite (not just Putin). In more than two and a half years of conversations with key Russian players, from knuckle-draggers in the dark recesses of the Kremlin to Putin’s sharpest liberal critics, I have yet to find anyone who views Ukraine in NATO as anything other than a direct challenge to Russian interests. It is hard to overstate the strategic consequences” of offering Ukraine NATO membership, which, he predicted, would “create fertile soil for Russian meddling in Crimea and eastern Ukraine.”


9 posted on 08/17/2022 7:50:03 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: PGR88
Another propaganda piece

Another propaganda piece from FR's Oriental Despot coalition telling us the tired BS that Russia invaded because Ukraine was about to be made a member of NATO.

Not even the Russians use it anymore, having moved on to other unhinged BS like bioweapons delivered via trained pigeon or whatnot.

24 posted on 08/17/2022 8:05:32 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: PGR88

In 2008 Germany and France rejected Georgia and Ukraine request to join NATO,

They did that as that was supposedly a provocation for Putin.

Putin invaded Georgia a few weeks later and Ukraine 6 years later.

If they had joined NATO, then Putin would nit have invaded


69 posted on 08/17/2022 9:39:35 AM PDT by Cronos
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