Posted on 08/11/2022 9:16:07 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
During his short press conference Thursday, Attorney General Merrick Garland gave no real inclination as to the severity of the actual documents being sought by the Department of Justice in former president Donald Trump’s home at Mar-a-Lago.
All we’d known up until Thursday night is that the documents were related to the Presidential Records Act of the 1970s, and that the National Archives were demanding the remaining documents still in Trump’s possession. The raid happened despite the fact that Trump’s lawyers had been cooperating with federal agents in the months prior.
However, a new report from the Washington Post strongly indicates that the materials being sought by the FBI were far more than just presidential records. They are, apparently, a matter of grave national security.
Classified documents relating to nuclear weapons were among the items FBI agents sought in a search of former president Donald Trump’s Florida residence on Monday, according to people familiar with the investigation.
Experts in classified information said the unusual search underscores deep concern among government officials about the types of information they thought could be located at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Club and potentially in danger of falling into the wrong hands.The people who described some of the material that agents were seeking spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation. They did not offer additional details about what type of information the agents were seeking, including whether it involved weapons belonging to the United States or some other nation. Nor did they say if such documents were recovered as part of the search. A Trump spokesman did not immediately respond to a request for comment. The Justice Department and FBI declined to comment.
If this is true, then we have a major, major problem. Actually, we have multiple problems.
The first problem: How or why did it take government agencies 18 months after Trump left office to determine that they were gone/possibly in his possession? Whether it concerns our weapons or someone else’s, this isn’t stuff you should lose track of. I get that Trump walking out with a dozen or more boxes of documents can be troubling, but someone should have figured this out long ago. This sort of information is sensitive, classified, and protected for a reason.
The second problem: If they are in Trump’s possession and not in the capable(?) hands of the intelligence community, then Trump has really screwed up here. If this is as serious as the Post and their sources say it is, then this is the sort of information foreign powers will do anything to get their hands on. You don’t just stick it in the closet and forget about it. If it turns out to be true and Trump has this, the Republican Party really needs to rethink its commitment to Trump. The GOP is usually on the side of strong national security, not actively working against it.
The third problem: And, on that note, if this is as serious as the Justice Department’s sources are making out to be, then holy mother of God why are you leaking it to the press, you absolute morons? This is something that could quite literally get someone killed, alter the balance of global powers, and generally make certain people’s lives a nightmarish hellscape… and you’re just tossing it out to reporters like this is good to chum the waters with.
I had already thought that everyone involved in this story was grossly incompetent, and somehow they have decided they are dead set on proving it.
With all of that said, I remain skeptical for a few reasons:
And, to be quite honest, the media and the FBI have both done stellar jobs debasing themselves throughout the last six years. Both institutions are distrusted by the American public, and for good reason. The FBI pursued a largely fake dossier, with agents that had admitted biases and agendas against Trump. The media has spent the last six years breathlessly telling us the “walls are closing in” after each and every news tidbit came out — and many of those were just as fake as the dossier.
But, if even a sliver of this story is true, then we have a very, very big problem on our hands. Yet, it won’t matter because the same people who will attack Trump have ruined their credibility before we got to this point, and the same people who defend Trump would defend him if he launched our entire nuclear arsenal from 5th Avenue.
launch codes?....those are changed every 2-3 days....
That declassification was ordered in October 2020. They slow walked everything hoping/knowing he’d lose. They ran out the clock.
I have fully authorized the total Declassification of any & all documents pertaining to the single greatest political CRIME in American History, the Russia Hoax. Likewise, the Hillary Clinton Email Scandal. No redactions! https://t.co/GgnHh9GOiq
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 7, 2020
That is awesome.
You must have overlooked Dr Evil. He’s a bad mofo
Meanwhile, Hillary is laughing her azov.
Tucker’s show last nite had on Roger Stone. His home in Florida was invaded in 2018 by 29 FBI agents dressed like commandos, pointing automatic weapons at him, with a helicopter overhead and two boats with frogmen outside and CNN mysteriously outside with live cameras. The man was 80 years old, had no weapons, no army of security guards, a sickly wife, and his lawyer had said he would turn himself in on some idiot charge of lying to Congress about a lie - Russian collusion. Think of our money the FBI spent but not on Hillary, Holder or Hunter.
Wow, obviously I did not know the complexity. So much for the stuff we see in the movies. Thank you very much for explaining the process. .
Whatever they were looking for is not going to be found in the search warrant. That was just a fig leaf to get them in to do the search.
I’ve heard speculation that whatever it was Trump took with him is “insurance” against the possibility of him having himself an “accident” once he was out of office. There’s no evidence of that of course but it sure would make sense and would explain why the FIB was so desperate to get their hands on it that they would risk the backlash of conducting a raid on a former president’s home to get it.
Also, you have to wonder if Trump didn’t figure they were going to do something like this and essentially sucker them into it. The safe was empty after all. He was ready with a prepared statement and a video right away. They couldn’t have played right into his hands any more than they did. Now they really look like they’ve crossed the rubicon and he got a nice boost from it all.
Frame in progress?
From BBC News (April 26, 1999): World: Americas Clinton drops nuclear football
US President Bill Clinton left a Nato summit meeting in such haste that he left behind perhaps the most important piece of luggage in the world - the "nuclear football". Speeding off in his motorcade after a meeting at the Nato summit hall, the leader of the world's only superpower left behind the critical briefcase that contains America's nuclear bomb codes.-PJ"Rather than wait for everyone to gather he just took off", said White House spokesman Joe Lockhart.
The case contains the electronic launch codes needed for a US nuclear strike and provides a link with the Pentagon through a telephone.
It is carried by and chained to a military aide and supposed to be near the president whenever he is away from the White House.
When President Clinton's motorcade left without him the aide who carries the briefcase then had to walk the half-mile back to the White House from the Reagan building where the summit was being held.
"We're safe," remarked Mr Lockhart following the safe arrival of the aide, adding: "These things happen."
Aides have been quick to dismiss this incident, but other presidents have had similar scares.
Other incidents include:
- Left on board Air Force One in Paris when Gerald Ford arrived at economic summit
- Jimmy Carter left codes in his suit when it was sent to the dry cleaners
- Separated from Ronald Reagan when he was shot in 1981
The FBI sent in their Extremely Sensitive Documents Team.
Probably a lie. If not a lie, he’s allowed to have them. A POTUS is the only person in America whose clearance is valid to death.
Sounding more and more like the raid was a false evidence planting op.
If anyone missed Seb Gorka on War Room between 5 and 6 PM the segment should be available on RAV website. “Must-see TV” for sure.
Pack of LIES!! What DUMBASS would believe this?
Gee, if only the FBI didn’t have a reputation for doing BAD THINGS.
We all get to live with our past, don’t we.
WaPo - mouthpiece for democrats and the DS. They’re writhing in satanic rage that a political party is building that will actually challenge them in government, the courts and in the public square.
Seems the FBI were looking for anything the Dems told them to look for. They don’t have a clue. God save the Country.
Exactly.
Why didn’t they mention they wanted these documents when they met with him and his attorneys at the meeting a month ago June 3rd. What did they think Trump was going to do with these nuke codes?
Interesting.
A document can be "severe". I suppose documents can also be "mild"?
Who is "Joe Cunningham"? What is his native language - because it sure isn't English.
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