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Elon Musk Response to Twitter Lawsuit Shares Some Inconvenient Facts About Spam Bots
Red State ^ | 08/06/2022 | Becca Lower

Posted on 08/06/2022 10:25:42 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

We previously wrote about Big Tech giant Twitter getting both good and bad news on its lawsuit against Tesla CEO Elon Musk for dropping his bid to purchase the company in July. Sure, a judge had agreed with Twitter that a delay in starting the case until next February–as Musk wanted–wasn’t going to happen, with the proceedings now starting in early October. But the company also got the bad news that the “uncertainty” of the incomplete deal has shaken investor confidence, causing Twitter to post major losses to its bottom line.

Now, the Musk legal team has officially responded to Twitter’s suit “to force him to complete their $44 billion acquisition deal” — and it’s more bad news.

In the answer to Twitter’s complaint, which includes counter-claims against the company, Musk’s team attempts to refute the company’s allegations that the Tesla CEO is unjustly trying to exit the deal. His team repeats allegations that Twitter has misstated the number of fake and spam bot accounts on its platform — a central charge Musk has made to justify terminating the acquisition agreement after originally citing a desire to “defeat the spam bots” as a reason for buying the company.
Musk’s response, which was filed publicly on Friday, states that the billionaire’s team conducted an analysis of fake and spam accounts on the platform using data provided by Twitter’s “firehose” of tweets and a public tool called Botometer created by researchers at the University of Indiana. It did not further detail the process of that evaluation and added that its analysis was “constrained” by a lack of time and information from Twitter.

What did Musk’s analysis find? He says the data shows there are twice as many spam bots as Twitter claims there are: [emphasis mine]

Based on that analysis, Musk alleges that during the first week of July, spam bots accounted for 33% of visible accounts on the platform and about 10% of Twitter’s monetizable daily active users, or mDAU. (Twitter, for its part, has consistently reported that spam and fake bot accounts make up less than 5% of its mDAU.)

Musk also writes that Twitter still hasn’t given his team the full information they need to analyze “the methodology it follows to determine its mDAU count,” among other data needed to figure out the company’s value to potential advertisers. And execs might have an incentive not to help clarify things:

“Twitter also does not publish the methodology it follows to determine its mDAU count, or how it excludes nonmonetizable accounts from that metric,” Musk’s answer states. “Thus, it is extremely difficult for any third party to completely recreate Twitter’s mDAU calculations.”

Musk’s answer alleges Twitter leadership has incentives to report “high mDAU numbers to stoke investor interest” and because its executive compensation structure is based partly on mDAU.

For its part, Twitter tried to say that it doesn’t use the data that way:

Twitter said in its response to Musk’s counterclaims that its mDAU count has never purported to show how many users generate significant revenue by interacting with ads, but rather shows the number of real users who could be monetized by being shown ads. It also noted that Musk’s mDAU-related claims were not included in his initial termination filing and “are a newly invented litigating position.”

The company also continues to claim that the issue of bots is not, and has never been, germane to the completion of the acquisition deal. “Musk has received massive amounts of information from Twitter, for months, and has been unable to find a valid excuse to back out of the contract,” Twitter’s response states.

This looks like a tangled mess, and we’ll have to see where things go starting in October.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Society
KEYWORDS: elonmusk; spambots; twitter

1 posted on 08/06/2022 10:25:42 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

But the company also got the bad news that the “uncertainty” of the incomplete deal has shaken investor confidence, causing Twitter to post major losses to its bottom line.


wait what? isnt it the other way around?

the bottom line affects the stock price


2 posted on 08/06/2022 11:19:27 PM PDT by joshua c (Dump the LEFT. Cable tv, Big tech, national name brands)
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To: joshua c

Another bottom line is if Twitter admits the extent of known bot accounts is substantially larger than they have previously stated, the have materially defrauded advertisers when they assured a quantity of legitimate users for a certain price.


3 posted on 08/06/2022 11:24:32 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m not going to tell the richest man in the world how to run a business deal, but I gotta think that him forgoing the “due diligence” investigation part of the acquisition wasn’t the right move.

Maybe it was though... Maybe he goes to court, loses, has to pay the full 44 billion (which I think he’s really only on the hook for a portion of), tells the then sets the company to work collecting evidence of fraud in the sale of the company and fraudulent reports to the SEC.


4 posted on 08/06/2022 11:48:26 PM PDT by jz638
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To: SeekAndFind

Thanks for posting this.

I had almost forgotten about this story.

Glad to hear Musk is still fighting for the true member numbers of Twitter.


5 posted on 08/07/2022 4:23:30 AM PDT by airborne (Thank you Rush for helping me find FreeRepublic! R)
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To: joshua c
But the company also got the bad news that the “uncertainty” of the incomplete deal has shaken investor confidence, causing Twitter to post major losses to its bottom line.

I was confused by that too. Once the stock is initially sold by the company, its price doesn't directly affect the company. Sure, a low price will get the stockholders angry and they may vote to remove the management, but whether the stock price is $10 or $100 doesn't affect sales or expenses.

6 posted on 08/07/2022 5:12:04 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference of the Devil...-Churchill)
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To: SeekAndFind

Worth repeating

“What did Musk’s analysis find? He says the data shows there are twice as many spam bots as Twitter claims there are: [emphasis mine]

Based on that analysis, Musk alleges that during the first week of July, spam bots accounted for 33% of visible accounts on the platform and about 10% of Twitter’s monetizable daily active users...”


7 posted on 08/07/2022 5:41:51 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: SeekAndFind

Anyone making a guess on what the final price will be for Musk to buy Twitter? My guess, presuming the deal goes through, which I figure is about 90%, is that it will be $35-40 billion.


8 posted on 08/07/2022 7:58:35 AM PDT by Reno89519 (FJB. Respect America, Embrace America, Buy American, Hire American.)
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To: Reno89519

This thing sounds like a “jobs” program for high dollar litigators.


9 posted on 08/07/2022 8:00:09 AM PDT by nascarnation (Let's Go Brandon!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Im glad Elon has found a nice hobby that he can use to fill his time off of being the worlds richest guy.

Twitter is getting a taste of real world competition now that their fake numbers have been exposed.


10 posted on 08/07/2022 8:08:01 AM PDT by Delta 21 (It started as a virus, and mutated into an IQ test.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Twitter said in its response to Musk's counterclaims that its mDAU count has never purported to show how many users generate significant revenue by interacting with ads, but rather shows the number of real users who could be monetized by being shown ads.

That's an odd marketing strategy - unless your internal numbers fall below average. Reporting this way would indicate a larger number of bots, since they don't interact with ads. Twitter is treading on thin ice here, IMHO.

11 posted on 08/07/2022 8:21:14 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: nascarnation

Well if the end result is to clear out the Indian management and anti-American BS, that’s a win.


12 posted on 08/07/2022 3:09:02 PM PDT by Reno89519 (FJB. Respect America, Embrace America, Buy American, Hire American.)
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