Posted on 08/06/2022 2:47:07 PM PDT by Noumenon
I like DeSantis.
but the very same anti=American forces that attack PDJT will simply shift over to attecking DeSamtis in case he becomes POTUS.
and if a billionaire like PDJT got “neutered” in office, you can bet your sweep bibbies that DeSamtis will too
Ping for later
I got the sense, based upon the gist of what Chilton was saying that DeSantis would be better off remaining as Florida governor. Especially so if the decentralization discussed here proceeds apace. What DC wants, what the feds want will become increasingly irrelevant, scorned and dismissed.
Yes but he had an “R” by his name, so he was hated and demonized. Now even if you have a “D” by your name, you are hated and demonized if you are not left enough.
But of course they all love him now.
DeSantis is taking care of Florida. Trump had a lot more to take care of than one state.
“Not to difficult to predict the consequences of (eventually) no fuel, empty Walmarts and grocery stores, non existent law enforcement and weak people”.
And commonsense almost non-existent among the weak people.
They will be worse with DeSantis if they get away with destroying Trump. There is no down side for them.
That’s why I think Trump has to run and has to win... to prove that they did not destroy him.
They will be worse with DeSantis if they get away with destroying Trump. There is no down side for them.
^^^^^^^^
This!
The only way to stop it in its tracks is to start killing progs, and there doesn't seem to be enough appeal for that (just yet). The collapse will bring the determination finally to respond to the existential threat and fight or die.
Let's get it on...
For later
and if a billionaire like PDJT got “neutered” in office, you can bet your sweep bibbies that DeSamtis will too
It's true that they would attack DeSantis like they did Trump. President Trump, as much as I love him, gave them too much leeway to attack him. He talked tough but hesitated to use the power of his office as he should have. He also surrounded himself with people who weren't loyal to him and did more to hamper him than further his agenda (Priebus, Kelly, Barr, Sessums, Mattis just to name a few). He was a bit naïve in who he trusted, the swamp undermined him at every turn and for whatever reason he was ineffective at breaking free of their constraints even though he had the power of the office and the people behind him.
DeSantis is more of a "speak softly and carry a big stick" type of guy as evidenced by the states attorney he bounced this week. That states attorney is out running his mouth to the media about how DeSantis can't do it, it's unconstitutional, etc., but in the end he's still out on his ass and someone DeSantis appointed is in the job. DeSantis will make it stick while Trump couldn't seem to make anything stick, he was ineffective at countering the swamp which effectively kept him from carrying out his presidential duties.
If Trump runs I'll be the first to vote for him, but I hope he's wised up a lot about how to pick the people that surround him.
Yes. Agree
Waiting for significant unwinding of washDC power may be like waiting for Godot
The commentary makes the point that there is going to be a collapse. Then stuffs paragraph after paragraph with irrelevant fluff. When her writes, “Why yes, I have this simplistic blackpiller take that doesn’t address actual historical precedents going back 5000 years, doesn’t evince an understanding of chaos-complexity or non-linear feedback systems, and generally just ignores all current trends, but please take me seriously!” I stopped reading.
I think thru secession more than half the USA can be salvaged.
Bkmk...thanks.
you might check your posts on gramerly
When a population is low, there is plenty of food and a labour shortage, and so food prices are low and wages are high. A population enjoys a decent standard of living. This dynamics translates into political stability. As a result, the population tends to grow. This is the expansion phase.
Eventually a population approaches its carrying capacity resulting in shortages of food and an oversupply of labour. Prices rise, wages drop, and the standard of living declines. The average person is paid less and has to pay more for the basic essentials. Famines increase in severity, the susceptibility of people to disease also increases, as does the possibility of widespread epidemics.
At the same time, it is a ‘golden age’ for the elite. Landowners pay lower wages and charge higher rents. Middling landowners are forced off their farms and land is concentrated in the hands of the few. The inequality gap widens. Elite numbers and appetites grow. This is the ‘stagflation’ phase (Turchin and Nefedov 2009: 10–13).
Then a society hits a crisis. People starve, social cohesion collapses, the number of people living at subsistence level grows, grain reserves disappear, diseases ravage a malnourished population, there are rural and urban uprisings and, ultimately, the population declines.
As the general population shrinks, the elites, cushioned by their status and their wealth, do not die at the same rate. The social pyramid becomes top-heavy. (NOTE Turchin stresses most heavily “elite overproduction”—the tendency of a society’s ruling classes to grow faster than the number of positions for their members to fill. One way for a ruling class to grow is biologically—think of Saudi Arabia, where princes and princesses are born faster than royal roles can be created for them. In the United States, elites overproduce themselves through economic and educational upward mobility: More and more people get rich, and more and more get educated. Neither of these sounds bad on its own. Don’t we want everyone to be rich and educated? The problems begin when money and Harvard degrees become like royal titles in Saudi Arabia. If lots of people have them, but only some have real power, the ones who don’t have power eventually turn on the ones who do.) Elites begin to see their incomes shrink. The result is elite infighting and competition for the resources of the state. In this period faction and civil war are prevalent.
Thus the first crisis, spurred mainly by demographic causes, is followed by a second crisis or ‘depression’ which is largely man-made. The man-made crisis holds recovery down, and this can last for decades. Eventually, however, a population does rebound. Elite numbers are reduced. Low numbers in the general population combined with high wages and low food prices lead to another period of expansion, peace, and stability.
Or, in Cliffs Notes terms, it's a boom and bust cycle. Coulda saved a lot of time there with some editing.
Here's where it gets downright funny. When our author/overlord sniffs at the Little People who don't "evince an understanding of chaos-complexity or non-linear feedback systems", I did a little digging and found...
In the dynamical systems approach, one sets out explicitly with mathematical formulae how different subsystems interact with each other. This mathematical description is the model of the system, and one can use a variety of methods to study the dynamics predicted by the model, as well as attempt to test the model by comparing its predictions with observed empirical, dynamic evidence.
This systems approach to modeling sounds strinkingly similar to that used to project - wait for it! - climate change!
So, net-net-net, our author relies upon climate change forecasting methods to tell us collapse is inevitable because, ya know, boom and bust.
The LEAST our hero could do is tell us Little People we only have 12.47 years left, like Greta's parents tell her to say. That could help his likely sales of freeze-dried food.
Agreed.
Excellent takedown.
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