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Yes, it has to crash, with all that entails, but there is hope. There is no disputing that we will have to navigate a very dark passage in order to come out on the other side of this. If you scoff at this possibility, you are whistling past the graveyard of history, and you will be in for some exceedingly unpleasant surprises that you will not likely survive.

The author asks the key question:

"The question I’m building up to is: How do we get back to anything that resembles that kind of high-functioning society?"

"The answer is trauma, a set of circumstances that will disrupt all the easy and dishonest work-arounds which have determined the low state of our current arrangements."

Some of us have already performed an exit, a stealth bug-out to small town, rural America. We have done so in the knowledge that urban life will become a hellscape of disease and disorder, of starvation and savagery. When the lights go out, when the toilets stop flushing, when the grocery store shelves are bare, urban/suburban Anywhere will be no place to be.

1 posted on 08/04/2022 2:27:02 PM PDT by Noumenon
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To: Noumenon

bfl


2 posted on 08/04/2022 2:29:45 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (We are already in a revolutionary period, and the Rule of Law means nothing. It's "whatever".)
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I think the population of my little tiny town is set to more than double just this year. There were numerous twenty-five-acre plots near my house, now they’re full of zero lot line houses. Although the city put in some traffic circles, all the same two-lane roads are going to service several dozen times the traffic as The People’s Republic of Tallahassee is only twenty miles from here.

While Tallahassee was bolted down with masks, mask police and one-way arrows on store floors, you wouldn’t have known any of that foolishness was going on in our local stores. A few people were wearing masks, but that was of their own accord. The Sheriff did shut down a restaurant for failure to separate people, but I suspect that was more political than health related. You don’t want to be on the wrong side of a country politician.


3 posted on 08/04/2022 2:35:01 PM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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I certainly agree with his point. I can understand why young people flock to cities, but I cannot understand why they stay in them. With remote work opportunities and fiber optic communications, the cost of living advantage of living in small towns is very compelling at today’s price points.

American businesses should outsource work to rural America. Real estate is crazy cheap in American towns, and an exodus is overdue from Brooklyn to Bettendorf


4 posted on 08/04/2022 2:39:01 PM PDT by babble-on
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To: Noumenon

Galts Gulch here I come!


5 posted on 08/04/2022 2:39:06 PM PDT by eyeamok (founded in cynicism, wrapped in sarcasm)
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“the insupportable costs of the shale “miracle,”
Well, he did say the drug underground was active.
Seems he may also be a customer?

I also live in a small town surrounded by farmland.
But folk are not going to thrive on a diet of onions, garlic, cabbage, and hemp.
So the trucks have to continue rolling even if they have to be converted to steam power.
We may avoid this dire prediction by simply refusing in mass to follow the Lib dictat.
We stop letting them tell us what to do and their power is gone.


7 posted on 08/04/2022 2:53:20 PM PDT by Ex gun maker. (Free thinking is now a radical concept, I will not be assimilated by PC or EV groupthink!)
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Just from the photo, I think I know his town. I don’t live far away.

Indeed, all of NY State is in an absurd situation. The best jobs, pensions and health care (besides the relative few on Wall Street) are with government. Everyone just accepts it. In all ways, including weather, it reminds me of softer version of late-communist Eastern Europe

If you can earn a living, and can avoid taxes - Upstate NY is a pretty good place to live. Leftists have mostly avoided flooding small towns with rootless migrants. Cost of living is low (besides taxes) and people are long-term and stable.


9 posted on 08/04/2022 3:13:46 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Noumenon

Sometimes it just takes a crisis.


10 posted on 08/04/2022 3:36:04 PM PDT by viewfromthefrontier
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the necessity to produce food locally, the need to organize the activities that support food production locally,

The author lost me with this nonsense.

It is simply, factually, false.

We have not had primary local food production since the 1920's, and we will not fall back to that level.

It could happen *if* government enforces it, such as the Greens and the Biden administration appear to wish.

12 posted on 08/04/2022 3:45:44 PM PDT by marktwain
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I live in just such a place, it’s fantastic. Like being back in the 50’s-60’s right down to some of the cars, trucks and tractors that drive by. Teenagers hold doors open for me and call me sir. When you hear “dream come true”, this is it.


13 posted on 08/04/2022 4:00:15 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The only way to secure your own future is to create it yourself.)
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14 posted on 08/04/2022 4:02:09 PM PDT by nascarnation (Let's Go Brandon!)
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Just one of dozens of economically depressed Upstate NY canal towns.

Beautiful architecture in most of them. You can tell that at one point they were thriving, prosperous places to live.

Then NYS government happened.

Those small towns will remain a thing of the past as long as NYS hangs onto its corrupt and immoral government.

Just another reason we moved out of NYS.


21 posted on 08/04/2022 4:56:02 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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We just closed last week on 5.75 acres 67 miles north of Where we live now which is the N Atlanta burbs. We are working night and day to get it set up to move to ASAP. Its a rural community of like minded folks. The city is getting really bad. Crime is soaring.


26 posted on 08/04/2022 5:09:12 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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Up here in North Idaho, we have the opposite problem. All our small towns have doubled, tripled, or more in population the past 10 to 15 years. The growth is horrendous and people wish it would stop and we can go back to what we had.

Upstate New York has been on a downward trajectory forever. I grew up there and did a lot of business there in the 80s and 90s. All sorts of business incentives have been tried to arrest the decline, but nothing works. The state was and still is very business-hostile. Like California. They simply cannot jettison their woke-liberal ways to save their states. It’s the same all over the country.


30 posted on 08/04/2022 6:03:24 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“May your neighbors respect you, trouble neglect you, angels protect you and heaven accept you”)
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Some of us have already performed an exit, a stealth bug-out to small town, rural America. We have done so in the knowledge that urban life will become a hellscape of disease and disorder, of starvation and savagery. When the lights go out, when the toilets stop flushing, when the grocery store shelves are bare, urban/suburban Anywhere will be no place to be."

I bought an 80 acre parcel far from "civilization" about five years ago. Built a house and integrated myself into the community. My Mennonite neighbors have told me they will feed me if things get that bad. I own a 65 acre forest with millions of BTUs of stored energy. I have a well.

I have become a simple observer of the fall of the West. Personally, I will not participate.

36 posted on 08/05/2022 6:22:33 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Proud member of the control group)
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Sounds like he’s in Dutchess, Greene, or Ulster Counties. It’s where tons of people move “upstate” to get out of the city. NY is actually quite nice if you could separate from the 5 burrows and chuck the liberal all Democrat government.


44 posted on 08/05/2022 9:19:51 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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I moved from Seattle to a county in south central KY, on 32 acres, 11 years ago. Third best decision I ever made. (First is accepting Jesus’ free gift, second is choosing my wife...)

And not to put too fine a point on it, if I still lived in Seattle, I’d probably be in jail over Covid. We ignored the whole thing here.


46 posted on 08/05/2022 9:45:07 AM PDT by cuban leaf (My prediction: Harris is Spiro Agnew. We'll soon see who becomes Gerald Ford, and our next prez.)
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