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Ammo Companies Say Packages Shipped With UPS Mysteriously Go “Missing”
Your News ^ | Aug 2, 2022 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 08/03/2022 9:00:33 AM PDT by Heartlander

Ammo Companies Say Packages Shipped With UPS Mysteriously Go “Missing”

Bearing Arms reported several firearm-related companies had their corporate accounts canceled by UPS.

Not only that, but some of these companies also have had packages damaged or lost while in transit to customers.

One ammunition distribution company called “The Gun Food” reported out of a recent 18,000 rounds of ammunition shipped with UPS, only 6,000 made it to the end destination.

Collins, who owns the ammo company, remains suspicious that many packages he shipped via UPS have been damaged or lost. He said UPS had pinned the mishaps on his company for not correctly packaging the shipments. The carrier also said he had recently filed many claims on packages not getting delivered.

“They’re not even making it. And I don’t know what they are doing in the facilities, if they are purposefully damaging them. However, they are not making it to the customer. Now for every batch that does ship, we actually ship everything insured. And usually, depending on the quantity or the value of the shipment, we’ll ship it with some type of signature required. So it’s funny when they try to say, ‘well, you know, you put in too many claims.’ And it’s like, ‘well, no, I didn’t put in too many claims. Well, our customer never received their package that we had shipped,’”Collins.

Bearing Arms pointed out that Lee Williams over at the Gun Writer Substack, AmmoLand News, and the Second Amendment Foundation Investigative Journalism Project has also covered this phenomenon of firearm-related companies having problems with UPS.

It’s hard to say if this growing trend is an approach by the Biden administration to use corporations as a weapon to cause as much havoc as possible for gun companies or if there were UPS drivers stealing packages. Over the years, there have been numerous reports of UPS drivers stealing whole shipments of guns (read: here & here).

“In the investigation from the shipping aspect, we actually got involved with a couple of other folks that say that here in the Greater Atlanta area, where my business is based out of, we’ve ran into issues where people have not received their ammo. And we noticed it on both ends. I believe one of my distributors has actually lost over $200,000 worth of ammunition that just wound up missing,” Collins said.

Collins said his company’s new shipping policy would provide UPS with a “picture of how the box is packaged, as well as the actual box on the conveyor belt when the courier service scans it. So they really don’t have a foot to stand on when it comes to ‘did this package make it to the customer?’ ‘No.’ ‘And did the package get dropped off?’ ‘Yes.’ So you can’t really deny that.”

He said as threats to the Second Amendment broadened under the Biden administration, “you have to be very leery of the companies that you do business with, even on a personal level.”


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: ammo; banglist; bidenvoters; fedex; iylm; shipping; thegunfood; ups; usps
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1 posted on 08/03/2022 9:00:33 AM PDT by Heartlander
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To: Heartlander

Sounds like an opportunity to start a 2A friendly shipping service.


2 posted on 08/03/2022 9:02:15 AM PDT by The Louiswu (If your child requires validation from Chuck E. Cheese you have failed as a parent. )
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To: Heartlander

Put a tracker in the package.

Find out where UPS is stashing that ammo.


3 posted on 08/03/2022 9:03:48 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (My /s is more true than your /science (or you might mean /seance))
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To: Heartlander

They need to rename their distribution companies and warehouses to “GoodLife Nutrition” or something, so UPS doesn’t know it is ammo


4 posted on 08/03/2022 9:04:34 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Heartlander
"well, you know, you put in too many claims"

No, I put in exactly the same number of claims as I got from customers who did not receive their shipment

5 posted on 08/03/2022 9:05:08 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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To: Heartlander

Get out of Atlanta to start with


6 posted on 08/03/2022 9:05:58 AM PDT by Cold Heart (Save The Grid, Phase Out EV's)
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To: montag813

I think they’re required to put the orm D label on the box though, which is a tell of what’s inside.


7 posted on 08/03/2022 9:06:12 AM PDT by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
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To: Heartlander

In packaging class we learned FedEx has a package loss rate of 0.1%-0.2%. The professor who taught the class worked for FedEx.

Now we see UPS has a 33% loss rate. That’s not loss, that’s theft. It is criminal.

By the way the USPS has a much better loss rate than 33%, so even the government does better by about a factor of 30.


8 posted on 08/03/2022 9:09:10 AM PDT by packagingguy
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To: Heartlander

So far, I’ve not had any UPS delivery problems.


9 posted on 08/03/2022 9:11:58 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Heartlander

Simpl;e solution.

Insure all shipments. Insurance companies are ruthless with scammers and thieves


10 posted on 08/03/2022 9:12:28 AM PDT by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so bad that the federal government can not make worse.)
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To: Heartlander

Not to take sides in this issue, but I will say that in the past I have ordered 500 rounds of 9mm at a time and have had it delivered to my doorstep with the cardboard box broken open.

Ammo is surprisingly dense, and if too thin of an outer box is used, the box can break open rather easily.


11 posted on 08/03/2022 9:13:01 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: Scrambler Bob

oooooooohhh. worth the money.


12 posted on 08/03/2022 9:14:05 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: ad ferre non, velit esse sine defensione)
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To: Heartlander
Believe me, it's not a mystery.

Just like mailing cash or gift cards with USPS.
13 posted on 08/03/2022 9:15:28 AM PDT by Tommy Revolts
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To: Heartlander

I believe packages are tracked.

When I order from newegg I can find out where my order has been:

Received at...CA
Received at...Memphis
Received at...Orlando
Received at...Sarasota
On delivery truck


14 posted on 08/03/2022 9:15:48 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Scrambler Bob

I suspect it’s an unscrupulous ups driver or drivers that pick up regularly at the ammo factory.

Once they know what is basically in the package it’s game on after that......probably being sold to gangs IMO.


15 posted on 08/03/2022 9:15:49 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave)
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To: Cold Heart

“Get out of Atlanta to start with”

That would certainly help


16 posted on 08/03/2022 9:17:19 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave)
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To: montag813

Yup. Simply open a private mailbox service location, and label it “Clinton Sex Toys Company”. They wont touch it..

Working in Hollywood, people ever wonder why USPS does not deliver to celebs addresses? There is a “private service” which does that.


17 posted on 08/03/2022 9:17:22 AM PDT by max americana (Fired leftards at work since 2008 at every election just to see them cry. I hate them all.)
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To: V_TWIN

Yep. Inside job is my guess.


18 posted on 08/03/2022 9:18:01 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: Scrambler Bob

Six or seven years back,I ordered a case (1000 rounds) of 7.62x39 from a company who shipped it UPS. I had tracking info on it and watched it until it hit the distribution center in Atlanta. It ‘disappeared’ from there. The company shipped me another case, so no loss to me. But you know that missing case was sold on the streets to gangs or who knows who...


19 posted on 08/03/2022 9:18:41 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: Yo-Yo

What you are saying indicates that there is a safety issue.

It is up to the seller/shipper to ensure their packaging permits safe handling & transport.


20 posted on 08/03/2022 9:19:24 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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