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Attack On Europe: Documenting Russian Equipment Losses During The 2022 Russian Invasion Of Ukraine
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Posted on 08/02/2022 6:35:41 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas

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To: BeauBo
It's time for you put up or shut up and predict how this war will end.

I will -- at minimum, Russia will control all the territory in Ukraine east of the Napier river, including Odessa and all of the Black Seas coastline.

The only thing that can save Odessa is an unconditional surrender by the Ukrainians in the very near future.

But, I predict, you want make a prediction because you know I'm right and Russia has already won the war.

21 posted on 08/02/2022 10:32:49 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan
"You call on them to take up arms and fight the Russians. That is not happening."

Hello, it happened on the first day of the war, when President Zelensky ordered a full mobilization.

It takes months to organize, train and equip newly mobilized soldiers - which would mean that we are now entering the time window where such new units could be sent into battle.

Coincidentally perhaps, NATO planners have timed their deliveries of heavy weaponry and Armor to equip many of these new units for counter attack missions. Poland alone has sent hundreds of tanks (T-72 variants)

Indeed, the deep strike and battlefield shaping that would be among the early phases of such an Operational Plan are now occurring in the South, and the President of the Ukraine has publicly ordered the Military to conduct a "de-occupation" Operation there. Russia happens to be redeploying its Regular units there as well (last week), leaving the Donbas mostly to the local militias and mercenaries.

The Dniper River is about a kilometer wide around Kherson, where about 20,000 Russian forces are estimated to be nearing isolation on the Western bank, with the bridges now out of operation. The pontoon bridge they tried building was hit last night.

Any future pontoon bridge attempt is a trivially easy target for a HIMARS, or M-270 MLRS, or a MARS II MLRS - all of which fire the same rockets and all of which are now operating with Ukrainian forces. The accuracy of those rockets is effectively one shot, one hit. None of the rockets fired at the Antonovsky Bridge went into the water - all hit the target. One HIMARS strike (two six packs of rockets) that was fired drew two lines of pretty evenly spaced craters across the lanes of traffic. These are not like the old Soviet Grad MLRS, that you kind of spray randomly around a square mile.

The counter attack is coming, in August, and it is no surprise to anyone following the developments (Military staffs on both sides). The only thing that is certain about the outcome, is that casualties will be high.

22 posted on 08/02/2022 10:58:05 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Kazan

“It’s time for you put up or shut up and predict how this war will end. I will”

It’s kind of crazy to think that you can predict the future.

It’s kind of crazy to say that Russia has already won the war, when it is clearly still going on.

The enemy gets a vote, and no plan survives first contact with the enemy. There is clearly still a great deal of killing and dying left to do, because of Putins’ greed, ego, and cruelty.


23 posted on 08/02/2022 11:07:55 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Kazan

“How many KIA would you estimate from 75,000 more artillery shells?”

That question is to estimate the average kill ratio, per Artillery rounds fired, looking ahead.

On average, if the Ukrainians fire 100 Artillery shells at Russians invading their Country, how many Russians, on average, would you expect to die from them?

Then we can multiply that factor by 750, to get the estimate for 75,000 Artillery shells, and figure on about that many every two weeks, for the 155mm that the Americans are providing.

Of course other Countries are providing more 155mm shells, and many other weapons will also be killing Russian invaders, like rifles, HIMARS, Javelins, mines, drones, and babushkas serving poisoned pastries.

Its going to be hard to count.


24 posted on 08/02/2022 11:32:40 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Kazan
What Zelensky knows is that the folks who still live in the Donbas are Russian speakers and welcome the Russian troops as liberators. If you feared the Russians and were living in Donetsk and the Russians were approaching your town, would Zelensky have to order you to get out? No. It is ridiculous.

The one thing clearly proven by this invasion once and for all is that most Ukrainians, including those in the east don't want to be part of Putin's authoritarian Russia. As for why there is now mandatory evacuation, it is because the Ukrainians wised up. They know anyone left in the occupied territories is going to be 'voluntarily' conscripted and used as canon fodder against the Ukrainian army.

In 100 Days, A Separatist Army In Ukraine Lost Half Its Troops

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2022/06/13/a-separatist-army-in-ukraine-lost-half-its-troops-in-100-days/?sh=b0efd13dbef1

25 posted on 08/02/2022 1:14:34 PM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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“As for why there is now mandatory evacuation”

Ukrainian officials are also saying that heating systems have been widely destroyed, and won’t be fixed in time for Winter. The former Soviet Union had a lot of communal centralized heating systems (steam pipes and radiators), rather than every dwelling having their own heater.


26 posted on 08/02/2022 3:13:47 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: tlozo
The one thing clearly proven by this invasion once and for all is that most Ukrainians, including those in the east don't want to be part of Putin's authoritarian Russia.

Pure propaganda. I've seen video after video of the Russian troops being welcomed as liberators. And, why wouldn't they be in eastern Ukraine given its high ethnic Russian population?

The ethnic Russian population, for years, has been persecuted by neo-Nazis and Ukrainian nationalists. Ukraine has used civilians in eastern Ukraine as human shields and killed if they tried to escape and now is launching missile and mine attacks on Donetsk. There is large volume of video from those in Ukraine testifying to all that.

You simply spewing lies. And, that makes you and your ilk a danger to our national security.

As Donald Trump said the other day, Ukraine should have been allowed to negotiate and should have agreed not to join NATO and let Crimea go.

27 posted on 08/02/2022 4:50:10 PM PDT by Kazan
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On average, if the Ukrainians fire 100 Artillery shells at Russians invading their Country, how many Russians, on average, would you expect to die from them?

You're totally clueless about what is going on. Most of the fighting on the ground is being done by armies of DPR and LPR, who are and have been fighting a civil war for eight years. Yes, they are and most in Donetsk and Lugansk agree, fighting Ukrainian neo-Nazis and nationalist invaders that have persecuted and killed them.

Russia OWNS the air in this war and has one of the best air defense systems in the world. So, yes, the causalities for the Russian military and their allies has minimal. The exception, perhaps, being in Mariupol, where there was heavy ground fighting.

You have exactly ass backward. It's the Ukrainians that are dug in an immobile and have massacred by Russian missiles.

28 posted on 08/02/2022 4:55:14 PM PDT by Kazan
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Lol, sure Ukrainian’s in eastern Ukraine are welcoming their Russian ‘liberators’ who have brought war to their neighborhoods, completely destroyed their towns and cities. Funny how Russians had to use tear gas and mass arrests in Kherson to break up the anti-Russian demonstrations.


29 posted on 08/03/2022 6:12:04 AM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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You're either a moron or a liar.

There has been a civil war in Ukraine eight years set off by a coup we fomented. That alienated the ethnically Russian part of the nation in eastern Ukraine. It set off independence movements in Donetsk and Lugansk.

Almost all the fighting on ground in Donbas is being done BY UKRAINIANS from Donetsk and Lugansk. Gee, why would that be the case? BECAUSE YOU FREEPIN' IDIOT, the ethnic Russian population has been persecuted and killed by Ukrainian nationalists and neo-Nazis for the past eight years.

During this war, you dim wit, the Ukrainian army has been targeting civilians in Donetsk.

You're either too ignorant or dishonest about what is going to even have a rational discussion with.

30 posted on 08/03/2022 9:46:49 AM PDT by Kazan
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