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To: Kazan
What Zelensky knows is that the folks who still live in the Donbas are Russian speakers and welcome the Russian troops as liberators. If you feared the Russians and were living in Donetsk and the Russians were approaching your town, would Zelensky have to order you to get out? No. It is ridiculous.

The one thing clearly proven by this invasion once and for all is that most Ukrainians, including those in the east don't want to be part of Putin's authoritarian Russia. As for why there is now mandatory evacuation, it is because the Ukrainians wised up. They know anyone left in the occupied territories is going to be 'voluntarily' conscripted and used as canon fodder against the Ukrainian army.

In 100 Days, A Separatist Army In Ukraine Lost Half Its Troops

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2022/06/13/a-separatist-army-in-ukraine-lost-half-its-troops-in-100-days/?sh=b0efd13dbef1

25 posted on 08/02/2022 1:14:34 PM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: tlozo; Kazan

“As for why there is now mandatory evacuation”

Ukrainian officials are also saying that heating systems have been widely destroyed, and won’t be fixed in time for Winter. The former Soviet Union had a lot of communal centralized heating systems (steam pipes and radiators), rather than every dwelling having their own heater.


26 posted on 08/02/2022 3:13:47 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: tlozo
The one thing clearly proven by this invasion once and for all is that most Ukrainians, including those in the east don't want to be part of Putin's authoritarian Russia.

Pure propaganda. I've seen video after video of the Russian troops being welcomed as liberators. And, why wouldn't they be in eastern Ukraine given its high ethnic Russian population?

The ethnic Russian population, for years, has been persecuted by neo-Nazis and Ukrainian nationalists. Ukraine has used civilians in eastern Ukraine as human shields and killed if they tried to escape and now is launching missile and mine attacks on Donetsk. There is large volume of video from those in Ukraine testifying to all that.

You simply spewing lies. And, that makes you and your ilk a danger to our national security.

As Donald Trump said the other day, Ukraine should have been allowed to negotiate and should have agreed not to join NATO and let Crimea go.

27 posted on 08/02/2022 4:50:10 PM PDT by Kazan
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