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To: lee martell

I’m not sure I understand the issue.

Why would they forbid Independent Truckers to subcontract with Trucking Companies?

Who is backing this bill, and why?

I am from GA. I don’t understand, can someone enlighten me in a few sentences, as the article is not very clear....


43 posted on 07/05/2022 5:10:16 PM PDT by nikos1121
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To: nikos1121

I don’t really know enough about how the trucking industry works to explain it properly. Maybe someone else here can enlighten us.


46 posted on 07/05/2022 5:18:12 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: nikos1121
Back in the 80's there were a bunch of "independent contractors" who worked at MicroSoft as programmers.

They worked for MicroSoft for years in the same jobs and didn't get benefits, vacation, etc. Just a salary.

Someone complained and said these really aren't contractors, they are employees and should be treated as such. This was before Bill Gates become buddy-buddy with the FedGov.

Fast forward and a number of states are creating legislation that prevents companies from "exploiting" workers who behave like employees but are compensated as contractors. If you are truly an "independent contractor" then you have to work for a variety of companies, not just one.

Prop 5 is one of those laws that outlawed employees being treated as contractors. At first it meant that Uber and Lyft had to hire all of their workers as employees, but they somehow got an exemption. The truckers lobbied for an extension, but didn't get one.

With programmers or sys admins it can be difficult to work for many companies, especially if you are limited to using their equipment. Imagine having to set up your environment from scratch for each new gig.

However, I'm just asking some innocent questions of how hard it would be for independent truckers to work for multiple shippers/carriers rather than focus on one shipper and come under Prop 5 scrutiny.

If I'm an independent trucker and I have a good relationship with a particular shipper and I'm OK just receiving money with no benefits, and I'm OK with owning my own truck, buying my own gas and insurance, and handling all of the paperwork, then I can see why many of them would prefer to just do jobs for one shipper. However, with a bit more work and some coordination with fellow truckers, I'm thinking they could get around the Prop 5 limitations and keep on truckin'.

49 posted on 07/05/2022 5:27:53 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not a tagline.)
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To: nikos1121

AB5 eliminated independent contractors in all businesses in California, not just trucking.


68 posted on 07/06/2022 1:48:22 AM PDT by dinodino ( )
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