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To: PK1991

Russia and China are going to emerge more powerful from this. The US and Europe had their chance, but required the US to become energy and manufacturing independent to do so, as well as more self reliance by Europe. Meanwhile both the US and Europe are buying Russian oil through middleman, and have increased reliance on Russian raw materials and Chinese manufactured goods.


2 posted on 06/19/2022 5:54:10 AM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: Thunder90
--- "...both the US and Europe are buying Russian oil through middleman, and have increased reliance on Russian raw materials and Chinese manufactured goods."

An apt observation. The US was energy independent only a couple of year ago, and the lunacy of the "green" hysteria here AND in Europe has brought both power blocs into lesser positions, in comparison to those nations exporting energy because THEY are energy independent. The Democrats and the neocons and RINOs would rather profiteer than see an energy independent United States return to more or complete freedom from outside suppliers.

In business this is called sole sourcing and just in time delivery, both of which have proven short sighted again and again.

7 posted on 06/19/2022 6:02:12 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time
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To: Thunder90

Russia and China also have been strengthening their education systems while we have destroyed ours through liberalism.

Even Boeing sent the 787 to Moscow for engineering, and Boeing sent much of their critical engineering knowledge to China as well. China is now producing airplanes to compete against Boeing. Moscow is producing ground and data flight data process systems.

Go to any large aerospace company like Boeing, Lockheed, Raytheon, or Northrup, and you find loads of Russians and Chinese (not to mention Indians). It is easy to get US citizenship and a security clearance.

Next to them are the Indians. Indians runs most large companies in the US and are displacing more and more middle line executives every day.


19 posted on 06/19/2022 6:21:29 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: Thunder90

I think ultimately it is in America’s and Europe’s interest to become much more self sufficient....to roll back globalism.

But the ruling class on both sides of the Atlantic haven’t yet faced up to the fact that Gaia worship has got to go. Until they do, neither can make much progress toward self sufficiency. I think this is something the working and middle classes on both sides of the Atlantic are going to have to FORCE on the ruling class kicking and screaming all the way.

Also, enormous harm will be done in the short term since the elites on both sides of the pond did all they could to destroy self sufficiency in the years leading up to now.


22 posted on 06/19/2022 6:55:12 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: Thunder90

#2 spot on. Russia saw through the “One World Order” BS (Davos, WEF, IMF, FED,...) and told them to pound sand.

The One Worlders have a major problem: They need a World Currency, digital, that they control. The US is playing along, doing their Useful Idiots part in the Davos play: Killing our own currency.

Russia said, “Nyet.” They tied the Ruble to gold. Game over. The Ruble is stronger now than it was a year ago. The dollar is losing over 10% a year. This is dividing the world into 2.

The One Worlders are trying to sneak their Global Digital Currency into existance, as their “solution.” Where they can monitor every hamburger you eat, every Trump Tshirt you buy. If that happens, Katy Bar The Door.

“The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve. This is true even of the pious brethren who carry the gospel to foreign parts.”

—H.L. Menken


24 posted on 06/19/2022 8:40:57 AM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Putin is behaving rationally.The war is on Biden and Obama. )
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