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Energy Prices: There has to be a tipping point
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Posted on 06/10/2022 10:39:54 AM PDT by jimjohn

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“which will have a domino effect to hurt the poorer, urban areas first, followed by suburban areas.”

As long as Democrats starve, I don’t care.


21 posted on 06/10/2022 11:03:49 AM PDT by rellic
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To: Mount Athos

I have about 9 mo. of <$4.50 Diesel in the Strategic Reserve for putting about town.

When It’s gone, who knows what I’ll be doing.


22 posted on 06/10/2022 11:07:56 AM PDT by Paladin2
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Price is always the equalizer between supply and demand.

Businesses will buy oil at any price so long as they can pass on the cost.

At some point a typical retail store will shutdown when the cost to heat or air-condition their building cannot be recovered.


23 posted on 06/10/2022 11:08:10 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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24 posted on 06/10/2022 11:08:22 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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A tipping point has been reached here in rural Missouri. I run along a state highway just outside of town. Last summer, to help the miles go by, I would count how many vehicles passed me in 30 minutes (7 p.m.). It was usually 175-200. My runs for the past few months — only 60-80 vehicles. It’s obvious that people are cutting way back on their driving.


25 posted on 06/10/2022 11:10:26 AM PDT by Restless
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Here is what I think are the types of things that will happen:

-Biden will declare an energy emergency
-Democratic states will declare energy lockdowns - companies cannot require people to work in offices unless the job requires physical presence.
-A bipartisan emergency trucking bill will passed changing DOT rules and providing a government credit for diesel up to a certain amount per mile.
-People will scam the diesel allowance
-The energy lockdowns will spread to a requirement to reduce flights by the FAA
-Some states or municipalities will have only essential business days - will be much like COVID lockdowns in that regard.
-All medical will go back to remote where possible
-Oil execs will be grilled everyday in October about gouging by Democrats in Congress.
-Vote by mail will be required without proof of ID in many states because women and minorities are disproportionately impacted by the energy crisis.

etc.


26 posted on 06/10/2022 11:11:03 AM PDT by Codeflier (I am just going to assume you are a Democrat if you call me a Putin supporter and ignore you.)
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To: Mount Athos

Diesel price typically drops in the summer and rises in the fall when people with oil heat fill their tanks. Typically ...


27 posted on 06/10/2022 11:12:55 AM PDT by Campion (Everything is a grace, everything is the direct effect of our Father's love - Little Flower)
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To: Codeflier

Crap! I left out PRICE CONTROLS, leading to shortages and long lines. Odd/Even purchase days too, based on some form of license plate registration.


28 posted on 06/10/2022 11:13:56 AM PDT by Codeflier (I am just going to assume you are a Democrat if you call me a Putin supporter and ignore you.)
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To: NicoDon
The tipping point is when raising prices results in people no longer buying.

I think we are almost there. People will drive less. Tourist industries will suffer. People are not going to drive to the beach for the 4th of July holiday. That will reduce the pressure on prices so it'll reach equilibrium soon.

29 posted on 06/10/2022 11:15:11 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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I’m 60. During the Carter years, it was painful but you never felt like ol’ Jimmy was doing it on purpose. He was just incompetent. Biden has made it clear this is all purposeful with his “climate” agenda, open borders and his obvious lack of concern about it all.


30 posted on 06/10/2022 11:16:50 AM PDT by Restless
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when people can’t afford it anymore and have to quit driving...

no sales, and the price will come down, not before


31 posted on 06/10/2022 11:19:19 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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a complete breakdown of society as we know it

Well you have to destroy something before you can Build Back Better. Welcome to the Great Reset. You'll own nothing and be happy

World Economic Forum Says "Happiness" No Longer Important

You'll own nothing, and you'll live a "psychologically rich life." (in their beloved Metaverse)

https://tessa.substack.com/p/wef-psychological-richness

Obama, Rice, Jarret, Soros and many many others, including some repubs, want a world government aka NWO. What's standing in their way? The USA and to some degree, Russia. A sovereign Russia that is. That's why they talk of regime change in RU. They're hoping they can get a WEF stooge in there. Talks of Finland and Sweden joining NATO. The Prime Ministers of both are WEF stooges. Biden just tried to give the WHO power over the US when it comes to plandemics. UN/WHO/WEF/NATO = the organizational structure of the NWO.

If they can wreck the economy of the US enough, you'll get a mass migration towards and into the cities. Those $12-16/hour jobs with 20-30 mile commute in rural areas won't cut it. Those trucks will still roll into the cities but rural deliveries will be unsustainable.

32 posted on 06/10/2022 11:20:06 AM PDT by Pollard (If there's a question mark in the headline, the answer should always be No.)
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I had a hen I quit feeding because the hawks had gotten the rest so I figured she wasn’t long for this world. She’s still here two years later and laid eggs the whole time without layer crumbles. Just foraging.


33 posted on 06/10/2022 11:22:34 AM PDT by Pollard (If there's a question mark in the headline, the answer should always be No.)
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To: dynoman

“An economy runs on energy just like your body runs on blood. Energy inflation affects everything else, because it gets passed on. I think the tipping point will be consumers buying less because prices have gone up so much.”

Correct. When they stop buying here comes recession if not depression.


34 posted on 06/10/2022 11:24:00 AM PDT by cpdiii (CANE CUTTER-DECKHAND-ROUGHNECK-OILFIELD CONSULTANT-GEOLOGIST-PILOT-PHARMACIST)
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Trucks will continue to roll as long as it’s profitable.

Aka if shippers are paying the higher prices no reason to park the truck.


35 posted on 06/10/2022 11:27:22 AM PDT by cableguymn
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start implementing our own Great Reset, before it’s done for us (and to us)?

I think most people are ready now but know that it would be a foolish suicide without mass uprising.

I think everybody is waiting and watching for the first domino.

36 posted on 06/10/2022 11:30:04 AM PDT by Irenic
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To: VideoPaul

It falls apart when no one buys the grapefruit at the store.


37 posted on 06/10/2022 11:32:20 AM PDT by cableguymn
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But think how much safer we will all be with banning “ghost guns” and standard capacity magazines. Priorities...


38 posted on 06/10/2022 11:35:45 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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As an independent owner operator, my rates have risen to account for the fuel prices. My fuel cost per mile has risen to $1.20 vs $0.53 under Trump. The fuel surcharge that my customers now pay is 46% of the load rate.

A $1,000 load now costs just under $1,500.

My two week fuel bill has gone from $2,400 during the Trump years to average of $5,100 now. Annual fuel costs are over $100,000 now.

THAT IS FOR ONE TRUCK.


39 posted on 06/10/2022 11:40:19 AM PDT by datura (Eventually, the Lord and the Truth will win.)
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Biden said today 9k oil leases and oil companies are choosing not to drill.

Not true, 2200 leases are currently in court. Oil companies have to fight cities, towns, counties and environmentalists to get the ok to drill.

Secondly, just because you have a lease to drill doesn’t mean you can drill right away. Oil companies waiting for oil pipes, supplies, and of course, shortage of workers.

If oil company has a lease for a big plot of land and they drill one place on that property and no oil, they will not begin drilling in another spot until it is financial smart to do so as they are taking chance that well will be dry as well.

Companies often need to have separate permits secured for multiple well sites before they can bring in an oil rig. But just because the government approves the permits doesn’t guarantee the well will produce oil and gas, as some never do. This means approved permits may go unused.

Sure wish Republicans would start stating these facts every time Biden lies about the 9K leases.


40 posted on 06/10/2022 11:41:09 AM PDT by Engedi
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