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Tian An Men Square Massacre
Allan Favish Website ^ | June 4, 2022 | Allan J. Favish

Posted on 06/04/2022 8:50:07 AM PDT by AJFavish

[This letter to the editor was first published in the Los Angeles Times on June 10, 1989, part II, at page 9. The letter was in response to the Tian An Men massacre by Communist Chinese troops.]

Dear Editor:

Seeing the televised excerpts of demonstrations at the various communist Chinese embassies and consulates throughout the United States, I noticed that the demonstrators appear to be almost exclusively people of Chinese descent. This disturbs me. Although the fight for freedom in communist China is primarily the responsibility of the Chinese people, it is a fight that should be actively supported by all people who cherish freedom.

Personally, I believe that if freedom-loving Chinese citizens are willing to take a bullet in the back at Tian An Men Square, the least I can do is demonstrate in support of their cause in front of the Chinese consulate on a safe street in Los Angeles.

On June 4th I was one of the relatively few Caucasians at the demonstration in front of the Chinese consulate in Los Angeles. A makeshift memorial was assembled consisting of candles, flowers and a makeshift coffin. As I stood near the coffin, a young man of Chinese descent, wearing a black shirt, approached the memorial. On the back of his shirt was the color photograph that appeared on the front page of the Los Angeles Times showing the Goddess of Democracy statue in Tian An Men Square with the large picture of Mao in the background. After leaving a flower near the candles, the young man placed a small American flag on the coffin and quietly walked away.

My eyes were filled with tears.

Allan J. Favish


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: ccp; china; tian; tiananmen
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1 posted on 06/04/2022 8:50:07 AM PDT by AJFavish
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To: AJFavish

Bkmk


2 posted on 06/04/2022 8:51:54 AM PDT by sauropod (What we’re living through is not an unintentional accident: it’s the American Holodomor.)
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To: AJFavish

Wow, looks like you are nearing your 24th anniversary on Free Republic.

Congrats.


3 posted on 06/04/2022 9:23:14 AM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: AJFavish

Bttt.

5.56mm


4 posted on 06/04/2022 9:28:04 AM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho got to go.)
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To: AJFavish

Where the CCP called in ignorant Mountain Troops brain washed them into believing every one they saw were terrorists.

Where the Troops opened fire for a continuous 48 hour of shooting everything in sight with armor piercing rounds: local civil troops and police, passers-by on the way home from work, buses, cars, trucks on the nearby roads, students, news reporters, people on balconies of their apartments etc.

Where hospitals were closed to all but the troops.

Where volunteer aid station personal - doctors and nurses soon became just more dead and wounded.

Where the troops used tracked vehicles - tanks, APCs, etc - to run over the bodies turning them into jelly, then bulldozed the remains into piles, set the piles on fire, and with fire hoses washed the ash and bone down the sewer.

Where some number above 10,000 people were murdered.


5 posted on 06/04/2022 9:30:12 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: AJFavish

https://www.sbs.com.au/chinese/english/remembering-tiananmen-why-the-goddess-of-democracy-still-stands-tall-in-a-sydney-suburb


6 posted on 06/04/2022 9:32:09 AM PDT by AJFavish (www.allanfavish.com)
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To: AJFavish

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-42465516


7 posted on 06/04/2022 9:34:12 AM PDT by AJFavish (www.allanfavish.com)
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To: AJFavish

Bttt


8 posted on 06/04/2022 9:40:33 AM PDT by Alvin Diogenes
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To: AJFavish

Photo of the Goddess of Democracy: https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/q_auto,w_727,c_fit/http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.cnn.com%2Fcnnnext%2Fdam%2Fassets%2F190603001948-goddess-of-democracy-05-restricted.jpg


9 posted on 06/04/2022 9:45:05 AM PDT by AJFavish (www.allanfavish.com)
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To: PIF
On the other hand, order was restored, the Chinese government and economy didn't collapse, and millions of deaths were avoided compared with the collapse of the Soviet Union under Gorbachev.

Russian mortality trends for 1991-2001: analysis by cause and region

Results Mortality increased substantially after the economic crisis in 1998, with life expectancy falling to 58.9 years among men and 71.8 years among women by 2001. Most of these fluctuations were due to changes in mortality from vascular disease and violent deaths (mainly suicides, homicides, unintentional poisoning, and traffic incidents) among young and middle aged adults. Trends were similar in all parts of Russia. An extra 2.5-3 million Russian adults died in middle age in the period 1992-2001 than would have been expected based on 1991 mortality.

Conclusions Russian mortality was already high in 1991 and has increased further in the subsequent decade. Fluctuations in mortality seem to correlate strongly with underlying economic and societal factors. On an individual level, alcohol consumption is strongly implicated in being at least partially responsible for many of these trends.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC259165/

The Chinese had recent experience with near collapse of social and economic systems leading to widespread famine and death during the Mao years, and they experienced the bloodiest civil war in history during the late 1800s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiping_Rebellion

Compare 20 million dead with the US' 655,000 dead in our Civil War.

10 posted on 06/04/2022 9:48:17 AM PDT by FarCenter
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To: PIF
On the other hand, order was restored, the Chinese government and economy didn't collapse, and millions of deaths were avoided compared with the collapse of the Soviet Union under Gorbachev.

Russian mortality trends for 1991-2001: analysis by cause and region

Results Mortality increased substantially after the economic crisis in 1998, with life expectancy falling to 58.9 years among men and 71.8 years among women by 2001. Most of these fluctuations were due to changes in mortality from vascular disease and violent deaths (mainly suicides, homicides, unintentional poisoning, and traffic incidents) among young and middle aged adults. Trends were similar in all parts of Russia. An extra 2.5-3 million Russian adults died in middle age in the period 1992-2001 than would have been expected based on 1991 mortality.

Conclusions Russian mortality was already high in 1991 and has increased further in the subsequent decade. Fluctuations in mortality seem to correlate strongly with underlying economic and societal factors. On an individual level, alcohol consumption is strongly implicated in being at least partially responsible for many of these trends.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC259165/

The Chinese had recent experience with near collapse of social and economic systems leading to widespread famine and death during the Mao years, and they experienced the bloodiest civil war in history during the late 1800s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiping_Rebellion

Compare 20 million dead with the US' 655,000 dead in our Civil War.

11 posted on 06/04/2022 9:48:31 AM PDT by FarCenter
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To: PIF

Never heard that story.


12 posted on 06/04/2022 9:54:18 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules
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To: FarCenter

Russians? That’s so far off topic, its ridiculous - do you even know anything about the reasons for and results from the slaughter? Apparently not, or you would have stuck to the subject.

Your “results” have nothing to do, beyond some arcane statistics, with the actual results on the people of China


13 posted on 06/04/2022 9:54:25 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: US_MilitaryRules

Never heard that story.

Not a story - there used to be posts here about it as well as videos on YT before it was taken over by Google and sanitized.


14 posted on 06/04/2022 9:55:59 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; BraveMan; cardinal4; ...
...if freedom-loving Chinese citizens are willing to take a bullet in the back at Tian An Men Square, the least I can do is demonstrate in support of their cause in front of the Chinese consulate on a safe street in Los Angeles. [June 10, 1989]
Safe street in LA, those were the days.

15 posted on 06/04/2022 10:03:12 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: PIF

Compare and contrast China and the USSR in the period 1989-1991.

Gorbachev attempted glasnost, which involved both democratic and economic reforms. The democratic reforms were let to get out of hand, the USSR, collapsed, the economic systems collapsed, and there was widespread privation and death as a result.

Deng attempted economic reform. The students attempted to also impose democratic reform. Deng crushed the students, preserving order, and allowing four decades of economic reforms to increase the Chinese living standards, improve health and reduce mortality.

10,000 dead students was well worth it.


16 posted on 06/04/2022 10:05:21 AM PDT by FarCenter
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To: FarCenter; AJFavish

Yep, order was restored, and today, we are fast becoming their b!tch.


17 posted on 06/04/2022 10:10:04 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Bus No. 2525)
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To: FarCenter

10,000 dead students was well worth it.

A) no amount of dead (murdered) people is worth anything
B) they were not all student in fact the majority murdered were not students.
C) you are off your meds, please call you doctor or pharmacist for a new prescription.


18 posted on 06/04/2022 10:15:38 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: FarCenter

So says the noobie.


19 posted on 06/04/2022 10:25:50 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14/12 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15/12 - 1030am - Obama team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: AJFavish

I was in a Chinese bookstore in New York City and the staff had three phones with open lines to friends in China, through which they were relaying what we all could see on the TV screen set up in their shop.


20 posted on 06/04/2022 2:03:17 PM PDT by Wuli
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