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To: Jane Long

Budapest is a dead letter anyway. The Ukraine that entered that agreement ended in 2014 in a CIA sponsored coup. Nobody has agreements with the government that seized power.

It would be like someone making defense agreements with Germany in 1925 and then being obligated to them in 1940.

The agreements died when Ukraine violated almost every basis of them in their destruction of that legitimate government, and their move to NATO.


26 posted on 04/24/2022 5:10:36 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: DesertRhino

Too bad Levin didn’t call that fact out!

Maybe he did, but....not in the short clip, that’s linked.


29 posted on 04/24/2022 5:11:45 PM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12)
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To: DesertRhino
The agreements died when Ukraine violated almost every basis of them in their destruction of that legitimate government, and their move to NATO.

I guess, using your logic, the never written down, remembered by some and not others, supposed agreement not to expand NATO, died with the change in Ukraine government as well?

58 posted on 04/24/2022 5:43:38 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: DesertRhino

You are the first I have seen talking about this...


91 posted on 04/24/2022 6:45:08 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (It's not the job of the unvaxxed to protect the vaxxed. That's the job of the "vaccine.")
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To: troll

Budapest is a dead letter anyway. The Ukraine that entered that agreement ended in 2014 in a CIA sponsored coup.
***The United Nations doesn’t look at it that way, otherwise every single treaty they ratify would be null and void with the next guvmint or election. Besides, there was no CIA sponsored coup.

Nobody has agreements with the government that seized power.
***The UN does. And there never was a coup to begin with, so your point is moot.

It would be like someone making defense agreements with Germany in 1925 and then being obligated to them in 1940.
***No, it’s like Germany in 1932 when they elected Hitler who chose not to honor those agreements. Learn the lesson of Sudetenland.

The agreements died when Ukraine violated almost every basis of them in their destruction of that legitimate government,
***Nope. That never happened. It’s a figment of your vast imagination. As long as we’re both imagining things, it was obvious that Vlad sent in operatives in 2012 as soon as there were oil & gas reserves to steal, those operatives started stirring up trouble that led to the kinds of problems you are bringing up. If you want us to acknowledge a supposed “coup” then you have to acknowledge it was Vlad that sent in intelligence operatives to foment the fires. You won’t, so I won’t.

and their move to NATO.
***They have always been reluctant to move to NATO. They wanted neutrality from Russia and NATO.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine%E2%80%93NATO_relations


99 posted on 04/24/2022 6:55:40 PM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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